2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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chrisc90 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 01:23
So going off that then:

26 points in vegas
26 points +8 points in qatar 34total
26 points in Dubai


34 + 26 points from last 2 races is 60 points.

64 needed to win for lando.

So if Max scores 4 more points than Lando in Vegas, Lando would need to win the last 2 races on the calander without max scoring.
Max’s gap is 62, so if he finishes above anywhere he will win, the point swing needs to go 3 points in Norris’s favour to still be in a chance to win, and then after that he needs max to essentially be p8-p9 while he takes the win and FL.

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Max was the only driver jumping the curb at Juncao. :wtf:

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AR3-GP wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 04:58
Max was the only driver jumping the curb at Juncao. :wtf:

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That's race intelligence (and of course mega bravery&skill to take so much kerb in the wet). A good launch from T12 means proper speed buildup for T1 overtake. This is why he got close enough to execute passes in T1 without DRS. He struggled to overtake LeClerc, because given similar DF levels, the Ferrari is simply much more aero-efficient and has greater straightline speed.

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Vettel165 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:16
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isn't the first point factually incorrect ? Hamilton won from P20 in 2021.

TNTHead wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:50
I wonder whether they have found something setup wise.
They found 'balance'. The good thing Redbull did on this weekend was to 'not touch the car' after showing good pace in the sprint. I think that helped immensely.
But even then, I don't think the car is going to be anywhere near Ferrari/McLaren in LasVegas where aero-efficiency (drag penalty per unit of downforce) is going to be key. The RB20 is draggier than them.
As AR3-GP posted above, the real reason Max got close enough into T1 without DRS, was really his drive out of T12, it wasn't because the RB20 was particularly good in a straight line.

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venkyhere wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 05:59
Vettel165 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:16
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isn't the first point factually incorrect ? Hamilton won from P20 in 2021.
Lewis won at this track in 2021 starting the sprint from 20th. But the sprint result set the GP grid, so he didn't start the GP from 20th.

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rbirules wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 06:23
venkyhere wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 05:59
Vettel165 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:16
https://postimages.org/
isn't the first point factually incorrect ? Hamilton won from P20 in 2021.
Lewis won at this track in 2021 starting the sprint from 20th. But the sprint result set the GP grid, so he didn't start the GP from 20th.
True, he recovered a lot on the sprint.

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venkyhere wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 05:53
AR3-GP wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 04:58
Max was the only driver jumping the curb at Juncao. :wtf:

https://i.postimg.cc/DZGZML6S/image.png

https://i.postimg.cc/fW3F15Y2/image.png
That's race intelligence (and of course mega bravery&skill to take so much kerb in the wet). A good launch from T12 means proper speed buildup for T1 overtake. This is why he got close enough to execute passes in T1 without DRS. He struggled to overtake LeClerc, because given similar DF levels, the Ferrari is simply much more aero-efficient and has greater straightline speed.
Or... As Max himself said, he struggled because Leclerc is actually pretty decent in the rain and was also the only driver to defend his place.

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Paa wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 01:41
Btw Horner should start applying pressure to FIA to don't make Herbert steward ever again.

Not because of his decisions, but how he present himself in the media. If FIA is so aware about language and stuff like that, they should be also sensitive about these kind of issues.
It is unacceptable for a steward to talk like that, and FIA should make it very clear that there is no place for bias. The very least they should present a statement about Herbert.
What happened?

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Half the fine for swearing for Norris and Russell running the red light while Stroll was in he gravel pit with potentially marshalls in harms way. What a joke. Anyone think Max would have gotten 5k and a reprimand from Herbert and the gang if it was him...? He got 2 penalty points on his license for 0.63 below VSC delta. Which one is more dangerous? And Lando effectively made the race one lap shorter, to his own benefit when he was leading.

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Mansell89 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 01:21
The WDC has been sewn up for a while tbh- Max secured it with some great second places and podiums even when McLaren had the marginally faster package.

Was always a mega hill to climb for Lando and it’s only the media and Liberty hyping this as a title battle.

Max for me has shown he’s got the edge and deserves the title- Lando will learn a lot from his year at the sharp end this year and next season should be a cracker!
it wasnt hype Norris is driving the fastest car on the grid.max has gone 9 races without a victory and redbull has since lost their lead in constructors.if these trend continue redbull will have a problem next year.so redbull need to fix their car because they are behind ferrari too.a motivated Lewis could be a problem

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I don't think Red Bull had any particular breakthrough this weekend, they just found the sweetspot in the rain (90% of this sweetspot being Max Verstappen), plus they didn't have to compromise between dry and wet sessions, maybe this helped them more than other.

I don't have high expectations for the remaining races, maybe with a bit of luck we can fight for a podium in Vegas (depending on how much McLaren will be hampered by not having their "special" rear wing, and Ferrari by cold temperatures) and Qatar; maybe there will be some more upgrades which can help.

Could be nice to seal the title in Vegas, also because during Qatar GP I'll be traveling and not able to follow :D

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There cannot be any doubts both Mclaren and Ferrari are faster cars. You can't just suddenly lose such advantage they have had for months, speaking about Mclaren in particular.

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Also being third in the WCC we get more wind tunnel time. A good thing for 2025.

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Final 2 races have 60p available for each driver, so Max needs to finish ahead of Norris or lose no more than 2p. With fresh PU and better feel with the car than Monza, I think he'll be on pole or close to pole and he'll be able to defend well I imagine.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Overall it is now 86points, with 3 points for fastest lap, that you can mostly take from the others if needed. So realistically 83 points to take for Lando. So Max would need 20 points in the last three races...there is not much to go wrong, right?
Don`t russel the hamster!