Cassius wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 17:09
basti313 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 16:39
marcel171281 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 16:24
Uhm, have you seen how easy and late the RB could brake and simultaniously rotate? The front of the RB was very strong yesterday.
You are talking about T1? That is a different game due to the banking and only slight turn in. This nearly feels like braking on a straight.
AND...did YOU see, that Verstappen could not do anything on the brake there against Leclerc?
I was more referring to T4, this turn produces much more understeer. There the Ferrari was sooo much later on the brake when it counted against Max and Lando...no chance for them.
I agree that it is likely the turn 4 and 12 understeer issues he had in the dry were less an issue with lower speeds in the rain. But I don't think that was the only reason. Probably also the Honda driveability helped them a bit in the rain.
I think the main reason is that the overall balance was really good. I am really wondering whether they have found something on the setup after the learnings from COTA and Mexico. They still seemed slower in the dry vs McLaren but that was expected. I did not expect them to be faster than Ferrari.
Sorry, I can not see, that the understeer in T4 and T12 went away in any way. Unfortunately I do not find the recap in Youtube to share a link, but it was slapstick how early both Ver and Per had to brake into T4. Ver never had a go at anyone there if I remember correctly and Per lost the place against Hamilton although being on the inside. In contrast Ber overtook Ham without issue in T4 around the same time.
T12 understeer was most probably simply not an issue as Ver always took a different line and was the only driver using the inside kerb there. Without this I fear the overtaking would have been super difficult.
No, I really think it was just the point, that in the wet it simply balances as the rear is anyways constantly sliding on these cars in the wet, so you can live with a car that understeers in the dry. The front itself is not getting better, just because it is wet...