2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[mwillems]

Even a jump start isn't a DQ though, and that is an obvious competitive gain.

This was a safety issue. Why Stroll was still on track beggars belief, but watching him stand in the spot that his car slid into whilst the others all drove by was classic Stroll.

I know they were going slower but, er, Lance, maybe in front of your car is not a great place to hang out 5 minutes after your crash?

But pulling away in an aborted start is the main reason that happened, so it wasn't clever. I expected a fine, I was surprised we got away with a reprimand.

[Ben1980]

Reprimand for Lando regarding the start.

Just to remind everyone, Leclerc and Verstappen got double that penalty for a swear word in a press conference.
I think Johnny Herbert should not be allowed anywhere near the stewards room from now on...

The strangest thing from race control when 3 drivers have breached the rules to delete one lap from a race :
"noted, will evaluate after the race"
What is there to evaluate ? It was a binary yes/no decision - cars drove off on yellow lights.
What stewards' message really meant :
"we will decide based on race result in case there is going to be big repercussion on championship fight"

Dodnt the coverage say there was no penalty for this in the regulations. Or sonething like that. It clearly needed a full investigation, and it went on for hours it seems.

Not everything Is a conspiracy. In fact very little is.

[Madhouse]

I cannot wait for Oscar to be Number 1 driver in 2025 and show Norris how to put together a season without gifts.

What a salty comment to make about Max's win. Norris is lacking a champions mindset & I suspect this comes back to his upbringing & privilege of a well-off family.

[Ben1980]

I cannot wait for Oscar to be Number 1 driver in 2025 and show Norris how to put together a season without gifts.

What a salty comment to make about Max's win. Norris is lacking a champions mindset & I suspect this comes back to his upbringing & privilege of a well-off family.

People really take what a driver says generally after a disappointment way too personal.

The rest of what you say is just very strange.

[FittingMechanics]

Even a jump start isn't a DQ though, and that is an obvious competitive gain.

This was a safety issue. Why Stroll was still on track beggars belief, but watching him stand in the spot that his car slid into whilst the others all drove by was classic Stroll.

I know they were going slower but, er, Lance, maybe in front of your car is not a great place to hang out 5 minutes after your crash?

But pulling away in an aborted start is the main reason that happened, so it wasn't clever. I expected a fine, I was surprised we got away with a reprimand.

Decision Reprimand (Driving).
The driver is fined €5,000.

You mean you expected a time penalty or worse as well?

[proteus]

I cannot wait for Oscar to be Number 1 driver in 2025 and show Norris how to put together a season without gifts.

What a salty comment to make about Max's win. Norris is lacking a champions mindset & I suspect this comes back to his upbringing & privilege of a well-off family.

This year Norris received so much hate trough the season, it is unbeliveable really. Every word taken as harshly as possible. I would say that the saltiest people are those that hanged on every word he said.

There is no surprise Norris caved in against Max, who is a veteran of championship fighting. Lets take a look arround, shall we?

Leclerc with plenty mistakes, Sainz as well, Perez nowhere, Piastri and Russell also with their fair share of them, even almighty Hamilton with hit and miss performances trough the year.

But Norris is the only one getting bantered the whole time, but people do forget he needed to chase whole season and that Max used his fair share of dirty tricks to keep him behind when they were closely matched on track.

[FittingMechanics]

I cannot wait for Oscar to be Number 1 driver in 2025 and show Norris how to put together a season without gifts.

What a salty comment to make about Max's win. Norris is lacking a champions mindset & I suspect this comes back to his upbringing & privilege of a well-off family.

Piastri "gifted" a win to Piastri in Hungary. That "gift" is much bigger than anything Piastri did for Norris. What did it end up being, swap in Brazil sprint and swap in Brazil race?

[mwillems]

Even a jump start isn't a DQ though, and that is an obvious competitive gain.

This was a safety issue. Why Stroll was still on track beggars belief, but watching him stand in the spot that his car slid into whilst the others all drove by was classic Stroll.

I know they were going slower but, er, Lance, maybe in front of your car is not a great place to hang out 5 minutes after your crash?

But pulling away in an aborted start is the main reason that happened, so it wasn't clever. I expected a fine, I was surprised we got away with a reprimand.

Decision Reprimand (Driving).
The driver is fined €5,000.

You mean you expected a time penalty or worse as well?

I just expected something more substantial. I didn't realise he got a 5k fine, still feels small. I think he's lucky that many followed him otherwise it would have been worse, I think.

[proteus]

We need to be honest and admit that Mclaren and Norris werent ready for WDC. Hopefully they secure WCC, and make another step in the next season.

[_cerber1]

What a salty comment to make about Max's win. Norris is lacking a champions mindset & I suspect this comes back to his upbringing & privilege of a well-off family.

Yeah, and Verstappen's father probably stole bread to feed his son. Such fairy tales.

[_cerber1]

We need to be honest and admit that Mclaren and Norris werent ready for WDC. Hopefully they secure WCC, and make another step in the next season.

I think everyone has forgotten what Zak said about his goals before the season started, to win a few races and be on the podium regularly. Obviously, that has been ticked for a long time now and everything that is happening now is going beyond the plan.

[Emag]

We need to be honest and admit that Mclaren and Norris werent ready for WDC. Hopefully they secure WCC, and make another step in the next season.

Definitely weren’t ready. Midfield and backmarkers for 10 years. And actually on this season it came as a surprise after Miami. They weren’t expecting to be in a title fight going into 2024 based on their predictions after new infrastructure came online.

A lot of weaknesses were exposed this season and they have to work to improve on them.

As for Lando, I hope the experience helps him improve both his racing abilities and the mental side of dealing with things in the sport.

I have to admit I was really frustrated at Lando yesterday, particularly at the restart. Every single driver was on the inside of the car in front trying to be ready to pounce at the green light. Whereas Lando was on the outside, letting the door fully open to Leclerc while not even being close to the car in front too.

It’s like he was trying to get overtaken.

[basti313]

I cannot wait for Oscar to be Number 1 driver in 2025 and show Norris how to put together a season without gifts.

The problem is...Oscar made even more errors than Lando. If you look at this season after the summer break, it is a bit like Mercedes in 2016: Nearly every Q one of the drivers is 0.3 to 0.4sec off the other driver...nearly every race one of the drivers manages to finish behind Verstappen in a worse car...
I really can not see yet a Nr. 1 driver...this will strongly depend on how they are able to start the season.

This year Norris received so much hate trough the season, it is unbeliveable really. Every word taken as harshly as possible. I would say that the saltiest people are those that hanged on every word he said.

I do not like talking about the words, it is him throwing away the clear and good chance on a championship fight. I really do not care who gets the WDC, but I hate that just by bad execution it is again handed out maybe three races before the end of the season.

There is no surprise Norris caved in against Max, who is a veteran of championship fighting.

No, that is a genuine surprise for someone by many here was called the best driver in current F1. I do not want to go again into the "who has the best car", just saying: I am genuinely surprised, that Lando is 60points back with THIS car.

Leclerc with plenty mistakes, Sainz as well, Perez nowhere, Piastri and Russell also with their fair share of them, even almighty Hamilton with hit and miss performances trough the year.

Well. The only thing to note is, that Verstappen is not in the list. Hamilton lost his 2016 championship just because of his "days off", although some say Malaysia. We still remember him for China gravel. We will not remember Norris for loosing this WDC, as he is so far away...but in the end, it was the execution.

But Norris is the only one getting bantered the whole time, but people do forget he needed to chase whole season and that Max used his fair share of dirty tricks to keep him behind when they were closely matched on track.

I would expect from an experienced McLaren driver in a championship capable car to deal with this.

[FittingMechanics]

I just expected something more substantial. I didn't realise he got a 5k fine, still feels small. I think he's lucky that many followed him otherwise it would have been worse, I think.

Agreed. I also expected a bigger penalty and for it to be dished out during the race. Maybe 5 or 10 seconds time penalty.

If we are talking hypotethicals, maybe that would mean Norris stays out during the VSC, stays in P1 ahead of Alpine and then has to fight Verstappen on track for victory.

Verstappen looked to have all the pace in the world but a big shame we didn't get to see a track fight. I'm sure Norris can squeeze just like Verstappen.

Btw, I am still quite upset by how easy Piastri made it for Verstappen. Leclerc was in a much worse situation as he made a big mistake at the last corner but he managed to keep Verstappen behind for a while.

[Sergej]

Lando didn't do the season his car deserved, the WDC was more than achievable. Anyway, he was in his first title challenging season, and he showed great glimpses of speed, so it can be understandable to lose against Max, who is not only much more experienced but also one of the greats of this sport.

The hardest part is coming next year, when most probably McLaren will have again a championship capable car and that's where Lando will have to stand up and show he's grown from this season. I think his rival will be Leclerc, so not that much easier compared to Max.