2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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cplchanb wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 19:02
Quantum wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 13:39
Vanja #66 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 11:35


Points in 2022 - 515, points in 2024 - 382 with 2 sprints more and 1 race less. Numbers are indisputable really...
Elliott's W14 had 392 points After 21 rounds.

Comparing 2023 to 2024.

McLaren 593 vs 284. +309 points (+3 positions higher)
Ferrari 557 vs 388. +200 points (+2)
Red Bull 544 vs 822. -278 points (-2)
Mercedes 382 vs 392. -10 points (-2)
Aston 86 vs 273. -187 points (=)
Alpine 49 vs 120. -71 points (=)
Haas 46 vs 12. +34 points (+3)
RB 44 vs 21. +23 points (=)
Williams 17 vs 28. -11 points (-2)
Sauber 0 vs 16. -16 points (-1).


Only 3 teams improved positionally.
Only 4 teams improved in terms of points.

At this point, even a hater could work out where the biggest concerns are. :lol:

https://www.total-motorsport.com/f1-dri ... rand-prix/
just as an asterisk, Belgium made the difference here. had russel not been dqd it wouldve been the more successful car.
Hamilton's DSQ in COTA last year?
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 19:09
cplchanb wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 19:02
Quantum wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 13:39


Elliott's W14 had 392 points After 21 rounds.

Comparing 2023 to 2024.

McLaren 593 vs 284. +309 points (+3 positions higher)
Ferrari 557 vs 388. +200 points (+2)
Red Bull 544 vs 822. -278 points (-2)
Mercedes 382 vs 392. -10 points (-2)
Aston 86 vs 273. -187 points (=)
Alpine 49 vs 120. -71 points (=)
Haas 46 vs 12. +34 points (+3)
RB 44 vs 21. +23 points (=)
Williams 17 vs 28. -11 points (-2)
Sauber 0 vs 16. -16 points (-1).


Only 3 teams improved positionally.
Only 4 teams improved in terms of points.

At this point, even a hater could work out where the biggest concerns are. :lol:

https://www.total-motorsport.com/f1-dri ... rand-prix/
just as an asterisk, Belgium made the difference here. had russel not been dqd it wouldve been the more successful car.
Hamilton's DSQ in COTA last year?
regardless the austria to hungary stretch was much more successful than than any year of the GE era since they won 3 races with 2 on merit and they were generally competitive on a consistent basis. no idea what happened from the summer break onwards to drop their form. everyone thought they had turned a leaf and could only go up from there. it seems like theyre now back to square 1.

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Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:37
Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
Anybody thinking Hamilton has unlearned to drive 3 years after 2021 doesn't know what they are talking about.

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Those are two totally different cars!!
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:37
Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
Wow. What are they doing with his car?

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:37
Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
Hamilton is closely following several cars and in dirty air and losing downforce; Russell has no one in front of him. Apples and oranges......

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:37
Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
Wet track vs "dry" track. :-s

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Lasssept wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 01:54
PlatinumZealot wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:37
Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
Wet track vs "dry" track. :-s
Yep. Missed that (but shouldn't have).

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OverheatedTurbo wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 01:40
PlatinumZealot wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:37
Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
Wow. What are they doing with his car?
I guess they are asking him to drive in wet and the George to drive in dry? :lol:

Whoever made that video must be extremely naive.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:37
Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
I've never seen a more facetious side-by-side-comparo video.
A classic case of confirmation bias - selecting the footage to suit the preconceived conclusion.

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Rodak wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 01:43
PlatinumZealot wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:37
Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
Hamilton is closely following several cars and in dirty air and losing downforce; Russell has no one in front of him. Apples and oranges......
GR did mention that he was not able to floor the accelerator due to the weather condition. Maybe that's the difference.

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dialtone wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:39
PlatinumZealot wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:37
Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
Anybody thinking Hamilton has unlearned to drive 3 years after 2021 doesn't know what they are talking about.
Its not even that far back. In wet Spa qualy of this year he was quick. 4 tenths on Russell to be precise. All i see are the trolls coming out the woodwork to admit this has been Hamilton level since 2007.
“And that’s part of the game, is being able to be adaptive, and we’ve got this new car – I don’t know how it’s going to handle, hopefully she’s great.”

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SKYnRacing24 wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 11:41
dialtone wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:39
PlatinumZealot wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 00:37
Don't know if it was posted already but look at this!!

https://x.com/hamiltonprop_/status/1853321509168697448
Anybody thinking Hamilton has unlearned to drive 3 years after 2021 doesn't know what they are talking about.
Its not even that far back. In wet Spa qualy of this year he was quick. 4 tenths on Russell to be precise. All i see are the trolls coming out the woodwork to admit this has been Hamilton level since 2007.
Calling all kinds of critics of a driver as trolls is really uncalled for and a really bad trend. Let me remind that in 2021, Russel out qualified Lewis at the same venue, in a Williams! That car, a backmarker, had no business being there. In wet, wet-dry conditions, the gaps are insignificant. Keeping it on track and getting the job done is more important.

No matter how much people try to defend, it's undeniable that Lewis has aged and he is not going to be beating these young drivers. At this age, adaptability is going to be a massive challenge as cars keep evolving. Lewis cannot do what he used to do in his hay days, hustle the bad cars and get performance out of them. If Ferrari does what Ferrari does, he isn't going to have an easy life at Ferrari either, especially agasint Charles. He is not the first superstar driver to be facing this kind of situation. The longer a driver hangs on, the worse it becomes.

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Dunlay wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 12:46
No matter how much people try to defend, it's undeniable that Lewis has aged and he is not going to be beating these young drivers.
Apart from the fact he’s beaten these young drivers, and won two races this year 😂