yuki has wrong passport if they is such thing.he led a race last year in Abu dhabi on merit after outqualifying many drivers on the top teams ,so the point is yuki has done many impressive things he shouldn't be in the position to prove himself. With Alonso having many health issues and stroll looking lost maybe he will follow Honda to Aston.
That's incorrect, as some have already pointed out (me included some pages back). Max came out of the pits in Q2 and did his normal prep lap, then when he was about to start the lap ocon overtook him up the hill and Max had to bail out. There wasn't much Max could have done in that scenario other than try to block ocon aggressively which was very risky given the circumstances with the rain and all that. Then he backed off and used the aborted lap for extra warmup. On the next lap stroll was already in the wall and that was the end of it. Not much else Max could have done in the whole situation, and certainly can't be the reason for 9 instead of 10.PapayaFan481 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2024, 00:30From what was said on the broadcast, backed up by Checo not being happy with the run program, they went round for an extra warm up lap, which was why Ocon was able to pass Max.rbirules wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 23:33From what somebody said back on page 454, Ocon overtook Max just before he was going to start his push lap. He then aborted that lap and then the red flag came out on his next attempt. Seems Max never got to set a flying lap in Q2.PapayaFan481 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 23:00
He was too slow and so did not make it through. Whenever the red flag was thrown, Max was never making it through as he was already in the drop zone and there was not enough time left to have been able to do an out lap before the end of the session.
Either way, why risk it? They left themselves vulnerable and it bit them.
On the other hand, it is entirely possible that Quaky got Max fired up and that is what motivated him to put on such a display in the actual race!!
It's simple. Alpine had an easier time generating tyre temp and Max had a lot less incentive to take big risks in awful conditions given the WDC.avantman wrote: ↑05 Nov 2024, 10:02To all those questioning why Max was so slow compared with Ocon when it rained the hardest before the red flag, or why Ocon in particular was so fast, Gasly to lesser extent. Yes, let's start with saying Ocon is actually a very good wet weather driver. But more importantly, If you actually look at two cars, red bull and alpine next to each other you’ll see Alpine most certainly carried more downforce and likely extreme wet setup and only because of that they had the advantage in the moments where it rained the hardest and the track was the wettest.
Judging by the size of RB19 rear wing(and front as well) it was also much smaller than also Mclaren, Ferrari and to lesser extent Mercedes(larger wing but seemingly shallower angled).
and after the penultimate SC, when it was still raining and track was super wet, only Max could stay near Ocon and started catching him back just before Sainz' crash. Norris was 11s back to that moment. Yeah, let's now talk about luck. What gap would it be at the end if not for another crash or clumsy Carlos. (who answered again to those questioning why didn't he get the top drive for next year.)
Besides, Alpine were really fast this weekend even in dry. In Sprint quali Max was just 0.012s faster than Gasly in SQ2 on medium. Gasly had a bad lap on soft in SQ3 and couldn't improve his SQ2 time, Max was just 0.4s faster.
having full wet setup and more downforce helps generating tire temperature faster of course. But they alpines were faster in those the most worst conditions not only than max but all other top cars and drivers.
team has won 8 races, a lot more than any other team, not missing on a chance to win another one once. and all that not even having the best car this year.
I agree. At this point, having Perez in the car is as good a choice as driving an F1 car into the gravel *on purpose* to re-join the field...
They tried with Gasly, Albon and Perez. What would be a serious driver at this point? Lawson? I doubt he’d do much better than those three. Same for Yuki imo. Colapinto? Just too much of an unknown/risk I think. I honestly don’t know what I’d do if I was in Red Bull’s position.
Renault engine development has historically favoured torque and delivery over outright power peak hero numbers, even through all of the RB supply years. That's always useful in these circumstances.Cs98 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2024, 13:40It's simple. Alpine had an easier time generating tyre temp and Max had a lot less incentive to take big risks in awful conditions given the WDC.avantman wrote: ↑05 Nov 2024, 10:02To all those questioning why Max was so slow compared with Ocon when it rained the hardest before the red flag, or why Ocon in particular was so fast, Gasly to lesser extent. Yes, let's start with saying Ocon is actually a very good wet weather driver. But more importantly, If you actually look at two cars, red bull and alpine next to each other you’ll see Alpine most certainly carried more downforce and likely extreme wet setup and only because of that they had the advantage in the moments where it rained the hardest and the track was the wettest.
Judging by the size of RB19 rear wing(and front as well) it was also much smaller than also Mclaren, Ferrari and to lesser extent Mercedes(larger wing but seemingly shallower angled).
and after the penultimate SC, when it was still raining and track was super wet, only Max could stay near Ocon and started catching him back just before Sainz' crash. Norris was 11s back to that moment. Yeah, let's now talk about luck. What gap would it be at the end if not for another crash or clumsy Carlos. (who answered again to those questioning why didn't he get the top drive for next year.)
Besides, Alpine were really fast this weekend even in dry. In Sprint quali Max was just 0.012s faster than Gasly in SQ2 on medium. Gasly had a bad lap on soft in SQ3 and couldn't improve his SQ2 time, Max was just 0.4s faster.
