2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[JPower]

I think we'll look back on this one of Ferrari's most talented driver pairings, probably let down by their cars.

Had they cars consistently on the level of even Vettel/Raikkonen(who I think underperformed vs what Leclerc/Sainz have done) would've been interesting to see what they could've accomplished.

[venkyhere]

Leclerc should try to keep a fresh set of softs for the race. Unless they think he can get pole, 15 or 20 makes no difference. Give him an engine change, some fresh softs, turn it to max and go for it. Nothing to lose.

Leclerc HAS to slice through the field and HAS to beat both McLarens, there is no room for a safe, calm recovery race that is sure to net good points. P20 or P4 doesn't matter because neither is enough. He needs P1 or P2 and a McLaren can't win, period.

Starting 11th, 15th or 20 makes a massive difference. If you start 11th it's very possible to slice through all of the midfielders and get to the back of the frontrunners on lap 1, that allows you potentially make up places against frontrunners during stint 1, pit into the podium positions, then make overtakes and win. After lap 1 you're limited to perhaps 1 overtake per lap while lapping over a second slower than the leaders and potentially getting stuck in DRS trains. If that happens a win is VERY unlikely without a chaotic safety car or red flag.

Leclerc needs to get as close to P1 as humanly possible in qualifying. If he can save a set of softs in Q1 or Q2 then sure, but getting the best possible result in quali is way more important.

If I were Ferrari I'd break into the HAAS garage and open a sealed engine component just in case they make Q3, so they are forced to take penalties and end up starting behind Leclerc post-penalty.

Let's say LeClerc qualifies in the top5 => he starts anywhere from P11 to P15.
Wouldn't it be better to simply install a fresh ICE, MGU-H, MGU-K etc, take the penalty hit and start P20, with multiple fresh sets of S ? The difference b/w starting P11 and P20 isn't much (maybe 5-6 laps of climbing through the places) since there are two back to back DRS zones. It's the climb from P10 to the podium places that is going to be a challenge since those cars will be faster and speed delta lesser.

All this, assuming they sort out the race pace in FP3. Otherwise it's a pipe dream.

[dialtone]

If he’s 15th definitely pit lane start with new PU. lEC would make up those 5 spots in a few laps anyway and you can crank that PU to 15krpm for a race. 1200bhp baby

[deadhead]

It's probably wise to wait and see where LEC qualifies, but considering the tire temp issues, second row might be the maximum, that's assuming he feels 100%

[FittingMechanics]

I think you are underestimating pace of midfield teams. This is 2024, cars don't slice from P20 to P10 in 5 laps.

[Sphere3758]

I think you are underestimating pace of midfield teams. This is 2024, cars don't slice from P20 to P10 in 5 laps.

I doubt any of them will want to put up a serious fight. It is not like McLaren have a sister team willing to sacrifice their own race to slow Charles down.

Also, if he has trouble getting to p10 from p20 with all new components, he has no hope making through the top 10 to get the podium without them

[venkyhere]

I think you are underestimating pace of midfield teams. This is 2024, cars don't slice from P20 to P10 in 5 laps.

with a brand new power unit (ICE and battery), Ferrari's inherent aero efficiency, two back-to-back DRS straights (which means there is no opportunity for 'loss' of the gain from first straight), overtaking midfielders will be damn easy for Ferrari. Difficulties will crop up only chasing P10 and above.

[yooogurt]

with a brand new power unit (ICE and battery), Ferrari's inherent aero efficiency, two back-to-back DRS straights (which means there is no opportunity for 'loss' of the gain from first straight), overtaking midfielders will be damn easy for Ferrari. Difficulties will crop up only chasing P10 and above.

with drs train it wont be easy for sure.

[mstar]

ANyone know, Fred last race said a very strange quote when asked will Ric Adami (carlos race engineer) be lewis's race engineer he said "we don't know -we will see"
I think it was a strange thing to say don't you think? Unless Charles wants Ricci ? /he is moving?

[chrisc90]

Just seen a lot of blue smoke come out back of Sainz car in sector 1 with around 30mins to go in fp3


Seen a couple other bits later in session - could just be plank smoke.

[F1NAC]

ANyone know, Fred last race said a very strange quote when asked will Ric Adami (carlos race engineer) be lewis's race engineer he said "we don't know -we will see"
I think it was a strange thing to say don't you think? Unless Charles wants Ricci ? /he is moving?

Maybe he will be promoted into another role.

[Schippke]

Even if you through a new Power Unit into Charles car and start at the back/pit-lane… I doubt the extra performance will truly make that much of a difference when you still need to lift-coast, protect the tyres otherwise risk taking too much out of them, DRS trains etc…

And judging by the FP3 times, McLaren look like they’ve got it all under control anyway.

[yooogurt]

McLaren fly off into space on sector 3

[ScuderiaLeo]

But if Leclerc is only going to qualify P9-P7, that's P19-P17 in the end. At that point isn't it better to just take the new ICE?

What a miserable weekend. Pace is nowhere, car issues are everywhere...

[venkyhere]

Leclerc should try to keep a fresh set of softs for the race. Unless they think he can get pole, 15 or 20 makes no difference. Give him an engine change, some fresh softs, turn it to max and go for it. Nothing to lose.

Leclerc HAS to slice through the field and HAS to beat both McLarens, there is no room for a safe, calm recovery race that is sure to net good points. P20 or P4 doesn't matter because neither is enough. He needs P1 or P2 and a McLaren can't win, period.

Starting 11th, 15th or 20 makes a massive difference. If you start 11th it's very possible to slice through all of the midfielders and get to the back of the frontrunners on lap 1, that allows you potentially make up places against frontrunners during stint 1, pit into the podium positions, then make overtakes and win. After lap 1 you're limited to perhaps 1 overtake per lap while lapping over a second slower than the leaders and potentially getting stuck in DRS trains. If that happens a win is VERY unlikely without a chaotic safety car or red flag.

Leclerc needs to get as close to P1 as humanly possible in qualifying. If he can save a set of softs in Q1 or Q2 then sure, but getting the best possible result in quali is way more important.

If I were Ferrari I'd break into the HAAS garage and open a sealed engine component just in case they make Q3, so they are forced to take penalties and end up starting behind Leclerc post-penalty.

Let's say LeClerc qualifies in the top5 => he starts anywhere from P11 to P15.
Wouldn't it be better to simply install a fresh ICE, MGU-H, MGU-K etc, take the penalty hit and start P20, with multiple fresh sets of S ? The difference b/w starting P11 and P20 isn't much (maybe 5-6 laps of climbing through the places) since there are two back to back DRS zones. It's the climb from P10 to the podium places that is going to be a challenge since those cars will be faster and speed delta lesser.

All this, assuming they sort out the race pace in FP3. Otherwise it's a pipe dream.

If he’s 15th definitely pit lane start with new PU. lEC would make up those 5 spots in a few laps anyway and you can crank that PU to 15krpm for a race. 1200bhp baby

I think you are underestimating pace of midfield teams. This is 2024, cars don't slice from P20 to P10 in 5 laps.

I doubt any of them will want to put up a serious fight. It is not like McLaren have a sister team willing to sacrifice their own race to slow Charles down.

Also, if he has trouble getting to p10 from p20 with all new components, he has no hope making through the top 10 to get the podium without them

with a brand new power unit (ICE and battery), Ferrari's inherent aero efficiency, two back-to-back DRS straights (which means there is no opportunity for 'loss' of the gain from first straight), overtaking midfielders will be damn easy for Ferrari. Difficulties will crop up only chasing P10 and above.

with drs train it wont be easy for sure.

Some of us were optimistic dreamists,
Some of us were pessimistic realists,
but none of us need to harbour any hope, as Ferrari are nowhere (quoting LeClerc) as the laptimes in FP3 reveal. Only hardcore Tifosi would stay hopeful after FP3 (unless the team pull off a Redbull, and in a matter of 2h30m, transform a cat into a cheetah)