2024 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Dec 06 - 08

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Piastri never opened up the steering in that corner after watching the onboard. Really stupid.

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Mercs so slow on straights

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f1isgood wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:18
Szabi1112 wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:15
f1isgood wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:12
Ok but why is this a penalty for Max? Car on the inside, well alongside and at the apex?
Because of the Brainless divebomb move
That is not an explanation. There was enough space on the inside, car is alongside and is at no point pushing the car even off the track. Piastri can't just expect to leave space and then expect a car trying to overtake him to disappear.

Drivers simply expect to take the racing line when other cars are near them? Lol.
Because he hit him….lol.

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The perhaps odd part to me was they did it for a first lap/corner incident.

Feels like they normally let that go. IF it was a few laps into the race

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DDopey wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:21
Piastri never opened up the steering in that corner after watching the onboard. Really stupid.
Why would he open the door for an overly optimistic dive bomb

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Spacepace wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:23
DDopey wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:21
Piastri never opened up the steering in that corner after watching the onboard. Really stupid.
Why would he open the door for an overly optimistic dive bomb
To not get spun around when they're in a crucial WCC fight? Max probably factored how defensive the McLarens could afford to be into his divebomb equation.. but piastri proved to be more robust than he probably should've been
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Spacepace wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:23
DDopey wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:21
Piastri never opened up the steering in that corner after watching the onboard. Really stupid.
Why would he open the door for an overly optimistic dive bomb
Because you do not want to crash ?

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Watto wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:22
The perhaps odd part to me was they did it for a first lap/corner incident.

Feels like they normally let that go. IF it was a few laps into the race
The penalties are a bit harsh. Both where just a bit unlucky. But it is what it is.

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Leclerc is having the race of his life, yet it will be all for nothing

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Gillian wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:26
Watto wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:22
The perhaps odd part to me was they did it for a first lap/corner incident.

Feels like they normally let that go. IF it was a few laps into the race
The penalties are a bit harsh. Both where just a bit unlucky. But it is what it is.
Yea the stewards were very harsh in these lap 1 situations. It would be nice if we had the same standards for every grand Prix so people knew what to expect

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organic wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:27
Gillian wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:26
Watto wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:22
The perhaps odd part to me was they did it for a first lap/corner incident.

Feels like they normally let that go. IF it was a few laps into the race
The penalties are a bit harsh. Both where just a bit unlucky. But it is what it is.
Yea the stewards were very harsh in these lap 1 situations. It would be nice if we had the same standards for every grand Prix so people knew what to expect
For sure, but this is a political sport so will never happen.

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DDopey wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:26
Spacepace wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:23
DDopey wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:21
Piastri never opened up the steering in that corner after watching the onboard. Really stupid.
Why would he open the door for an overly optimistic dive bomb
Because you do not want to crash ?
So you agree then that it was overly optimistic and the penalty was deserved so stop posting asking how Verstappen deserved it

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Spacepace wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:31
DDopey wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:26
Spacepace wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:23


Why would he open the door for an overly optimistic dive bomb
Because you do not want to crash ?
So you agree then that it was overly optimistic and the penalty was deserved so stop posting asking how Verstappen deserved it
Still, point remains that a 10s penalty for such first lap incidents is rather rare, and it's not uncommon in these situations for the outer car to go wide, while the inner is summoned to simply give the place back.

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DChemTech wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:34
Spacepace wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:31
DDopey wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:26

Because you do not want to crash ?
So you agree then that it was overly optimistic and the penalty was deserved so stop posting asking how Verstappen deserved it
Still, point remains that a 10s penalty for such first lap incidents is rather rare, and it's not uncommon in these situations for the outer car to go wide, while the inner is summoned to simply give the place back.
Verstappen will have to change how he drives I guess

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Spacepace wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:31
DDopey wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:26
Spacepace wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 15:23


Why would he open the door for an overly optimistic dive bomb
Because you do not want to crash ?
So you agree then that it was overly optimistic and the penalty was deserved so stop posting asking how Verstappen deserved it
I do not agree it was overly optimistic. Max was well along the inside and did not expect Piastri to squeeze him. Especially not from someone who had more to loose in the first corner of the race.

I can be quite critical on Max his driving, in this case not so.