2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[ispano6]

Helmut Marko,Christian Horner you are reading this right.
Red Bull made a mistake in promoting Liam, he who would have taken out Perez and Yuki in their own home races.

Liam doesn't deserve a potential racing winning Honda powered car, Yuki does. I hope the self destruct button on the Honda PUs work every time.

[venkyhere]

Lawson is yet to sharpen his skills, because that can come only from real life experience. Yuki has had more than enough 'soak time' in F1 (thanks to Honda) that his skill level has plateau-ed already. If Lawson finishes behind Yuki for the remaining 6 races, and for that reason alone isn't given the RedBull seat, it wouldn't be a fair assessment, because if just after half a season Lawson is suddenly driving better than Yuki, he would be wasted in the VCARB, where he could have served better in a faster Redbull instead.

I posted this slightly more than 2 months ago ; and promptly drew a lot of flak in this thread.
Now I feel vindicated. Lawson is 'raw enough' to be moulded into a 'leading pack' driver. He has that 'I wont let you pass easily' mindset already, it's natural to him. He can become 'polished' in 2025, because as far as RedBull are concerned, this is the 'gap year' before the real competition begins in 2026. That is exactly what a team like Redbull wants for the 2nd seat - a guy who will be thankful to be given the seat, a guy who will not demand anything above 2nd driver status (atleast for a few years anyway), and a guy whose 'faults' in his driving style are not set in concrete yet, and can be 'unlearned'.

[taperoo2k]

Helmut Marko,Christian Horner you are reading this right.
Red Bull made a mistake in promoting Liam, he who would have taken out Perez and Yuki in their own home races.

As if Horner and co look at this forum, other than an intern looking for possible leaks.

Liam doesn't deserve a potential racing winning Honda powered car, Yuki does. I hope the self destruct button on the Honda PUs work every time.

Honda are not in the business of making the brand look bad by making Power Units blow up. It's clear Yuki will likely never race for Redbull. Not unless events take a different turn.

[Sasha]

Yuki was never going to get the seat as long as Horner is boss. Yuki is at the junior team just to please Honda just enough.
Yuki will most likely will be replaced when Honda leaves RB in 2026.

[CMSMJ1]

The negative yin yang here really isn't a good look.

Move on

[the EDGE]

As if Horner and co look at this forum, other than an intern looking for possible leaks. .

You’d be surprised… There was once actually a camera shot of someone sitting on a pit wall with the F1 technical forum page open on a Computer screen

[ToffeeTyres]

They didn’t choose Yuki because could you imagine Max and Yuki on the radio with how much they both swear? The FIA would have sent them on community service so much that they won’t have time to race lol

[WardenOfTheNorth]

As if Horner and co look at this forum, other than an intern looking for possible leaks. .

You’d be surprised… There was once actually a camera shot of someone sitting on a pit wall with the F1 technical forum page open on a Computer screen

Now that is cool!!

[WardenOfTheNorth]

They didn’t choose Yuki because could you imagine Max and Yuki on the radio with how much they both swear? The FIA would have sent them on community service so much that they won’t have time to race lol

I don't believe the FIA has an issue with drivers swearing on the team radio. They bleep it out and, frankly, if they had an issue with it, simply don't broadcast that radio clip.

[chrisc90]

As if Horner and co look at this forum, other than an intern looking for possible leaks. .

You’d be surprised… There was once actually a camera shot of someone sitting on a pit wall with the F1 technical forum page open on a Computer screen

Now that is cool!!

Was AMR I believe when the GE era set first started in 2022 testing period.

[KimiRai]

You’d be surprised… There was once actually a camera shot of someone sitting on a pit wall with the F1 technical forum page open on a Computer screen

Now that is cool!!

Was AMR I believe when the GE era set first started in 2022 testing period.

More specifically, spying on the RB19 during the 2023 tests @organic

[Wouter]

Why Lawson is preferred over Tsunoda? He did not prove to be the faster driver.
Another "political" decision. RB is going downward in every aspect.

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Honda is very upset, that this partnership didn't result in Yuki driving for the main team. Horner is the spiteful husband after the divorce.
He will pay for this.

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Well, Honda/HRC/Watanabe were/still are not amused at all when they got the news from Horner Yuki didn't get the seat from Checo.

Original photo:



New photo on their Tweet when they knew Liam Lawson would get Perez's seat.
"A big thank you to Perez". They cut Horner from the photo.




And also Daniel Ricciardo deleted >320 photos from Horner from his IG after the announcement of Liam and he is still deleting!

https://www.instagram.com/danielricciardo/

[lio007]

Why Lawson is preferred over Tsunoda? He did not prove to be the faster driver.
Another "political" decision. RB is going downward in every aspect.

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Honda is very upset, that this partnership didn't result in Yuki driving for the main team. Horner is the spiteful husband after the divorce.
He will pay for this.

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Well, Honda/HRC/Watanabe were/still are not amused at all when they got the news from Horner Yuki didn't get the seat from Checo.

Original photo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfSEwAoWUAA ... name=small

New photo on their Tweet when they knew Liam Lawson would get Perez's seat.
"A big thank you to Perez". They cut Horner from the photo.




And also Daniel Ricciardo deleted >320 photos from Horner from his IG after the announcement of Liam and he is still deleting!

https://www.instagram.com/danielricciardo/

Why are you so upset and annoyed that Yuki didn't get the seat?

And why on earth should Red Bull please Honda for the long term? It's been Honda that initially jumped the ship. It's (unfortunately) the last year of this very successful partnership and it's time for Red Bull to think about what they believe is best for them.
We all have to accept the decision and move on.

I don't also get your dislike against Horner?
You know that the shareholders and Helmut Marko have been involved in the driver decision as well. I get the impression you think Christian played the main role that Yuki was not promoted (forgive me if I'm wrong).

CH was/is a big supporter of Riccardo. It's more or less down to him that Daniel got a second chance in F1.
BTW, I'm quite impressed you can share such a specific number how many Horner-photos Daniel has deleted.

Don't get me wrong, I'm just curious why you are so angry.

[Wouter]

And also Daniel Ricciardo deleted >320 photos from Horner from his IG after the announcement of Liam and he is still deleting!

https://www.instagram.com/danielricciardo/

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Why are you so upset and annoyed that Yuki didn't get the seat?

Did you also asked the same question to the 90% F1 fans who have the same opinon as me?!

Didn't you read the reactions when Liam was announced on the social media of RBR, Horner, VCARB, F1, etc?!
Everybody asked the same why not Yuki!


We all have to accept the decision and move on.

Who decides that? Do you decide that I have to accept something/the decision? Wow!!


I don't also get your dislike against Horner?
You know that the shareholders and Helmut Marko have been involved in the driver decision as well.
I get the impression you think Christian played the main role that Yuki was not promoted (forgive me if I'm wrong).

Well sir, you are wrong, very wrong. It was Helmut Marko who made the decision to put Liam in the RB21.
He and only he is in charge of the drivers now. The shareholders are mad at Horner because the new 2-year contract for Perez
(which was his idea, Marko was against it) costed them the WCC, even the second place!! That is why Marko is in charge now.


CH was/is a big supporter of Riccardo. It's more or less down to him that Daniel got a second chance in F1.
BTW, I'm quite impressed you can share such a specific number how many Horner-photos Daniel has deleted.

So what? Ricciardo is mad at Horner, very mad. Ask him why he is so mad. I could think of a few things Horner did.
Thanks for the compliment but it wasn't me who discovered the amount of Feeds Daniel deleted, his fans were the ones who discovered it yesterday and today.


Don't get me wrong, I'm just curious why you are so angry.

Well, that is fine by me. why is your tone towards me so coercive and aggressive? At least that is how it comes across to me.
Can I ask you something? Why is your tone towards me so coercive and aggressive? At least that is how it comes across to me.

[lio007]

Well, that is fine by me. why is your tone towards me so coercive and aggressive? At least that is how it comes across to me.
Can I ask you something? Why is your tone towards me so coercive and aggressive? At least that is how it comes across to me.

Sorry Wouter... it was not at all meant to be coercive or aggressive.
I really tried to be as neutral as possible. Obviously I failed to hit the tone, as you know English is not my first language

Honestly no, I obviously did not ask 90% of the F1 fans. In my opinion: I don't think 90% think Liam is the wrong choice.
I stopped reading social media reactions, it's not good for my mood and mental health . For me social media is not a reference any more as there are always groups that have their own agenda. (I mean, what else should a Yuki or Checo fan do than saying Liam is the wrong one.)

Ok, it seems I've missed that Daniel is mad at CH. At least I can't remember certain "Christian vs. Daniel" situations from my side.