2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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Matt2725 wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 12:33
Can you lot run off to the Ferrari thread already? Season's over.

Back to reality, the team isn't going to be sold, not with the reg change coming up.
:lol: :lol: This thread is gonna get closed soon at this rate.

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epo wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 11:52
Wouldn’t be surprised the team will be sold in 2026 if they are again performing less than McLaren. And MR Russell has zero PR value, but hopefully Kimi can takes his place quickly.
This team cost almost nothing to Mercedes - fortunately - because otherwise with the results it would be in a bad position.

For 2026, I’m quite confident that Mercedes will be ahead of McLaren.

McLaren was the second team after Red Bull to « crack » this regulation, succeed with those sensitive cars, and IMO they need to give everything for 2025.

Because 2026 will be all knew.

In 2026 I see Ferrari and Mercedes very strong, maybe Aston if they can figure out their issues

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OverheatedTurbo wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 14:49
Matt2725 wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 12:33
Can you lot run off to the Ferrari thread already? Season's over.

Back to reality, the team isn't going to be sold, not with the reg change coming up.
:lol: :lol: This thread is gonna get closed soon at this rate.
Agreed. The final race was magnficient and a beautiful ending. Wonder why people just couldn't let things end on a nice note. :wink: :?:
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
OverheatedTurbo wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 14:49
Matt2725 wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 12:33
Can you lot run off to the Ferrari thread already? Season's over.

Back to reality, the team isn't going to be sold, not with the reg change coming up.
This thread is gonna get closed soon at this rate.
Agreed. The final race was magnficient and a beautiful ending. Wonder why people just couldn't let things end on a nice note. :wink: :?:
It was a good ending, a farewell race. But because of the last good race it doesn't mean that the past three years were no contest. Lewis left big shoes for Antonelli; they are throwing the kid into the deep end.

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Jambier wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 22:14
epo wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 11:52
Wouldn’t be surprised the team will be sold in 2026 if they are again performing less than McLaren. And MR Russell has zero PR value, but hopefully Kimi can takes his place quickly.
This team cost almost nothing to Mercedes - fortunately - because otherwise with the results it would be in a bad position.

For 2026, I’m quite confident that Mercedes will be ahead of McLaren.

McLaren was the second team after Red Bull to « crack » this regulation, succeed with those sensitive cars, and IMO they need to give everything for 2025.

Because 2026 will be all knew.

In 2026 I see Ferrari and Mercedes very strong, maybe Aston if they can figure out their issues
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It’s not about cost, it is about marketing, Mr George does exactly nothing to Mercedes where apparently Lewis did for some huge markets, that is what counts and why Mercedes is in this sport for the first place.
Nobody cares about Broke England without money.

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Its a huge chunk of apparel sales and advertising revenue gone out the door but they will survive.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
24 Dec 2024, 14:35
Its a huge chunk of apparel sales and advertising revenue gone out the door but they will survive.
Their socials seem healthy at a glance. I think they’ll be fine to be fair. Not as big as when Lewis was with them, but the team has pull with the likes of Wolff and funnily enough, George.

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The socials are healthy because LH fans are still buying merch like crazy right now!
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
24 Dec 2024, 14:35
Its a huge chunk of apparel sales and advertising revenue gone out the door but they will survive.
True but theyre easily making profit without this

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https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/ferr ... ing-style/

I'm not normal a Mark Hughes guy, but there are an awful lot of good points in his latest piece. Of particular note is the relatively low influence age and by association, reflexes, have in modern F1.

Ferrari may be the best chance for LH to implement his style in the current regulations.

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Yeehaw.

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denyall wrote:
26 Dec 2024, 23:57
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/ferr ... ing-style/

I'm not normal a Mark Hughes guy, but there are an awful lot of good points in his latest piece. Of particular note is the relatively low influence age and by association, reflexes, have in modern F1.

Ferrari may be the best chance for LH to implement his style in the current regulations.
I like his articles, however I know his limitations. Great writer on drivers, driving and politics, totally awful on car technology.
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Cocles wrote:
27 Dec 2024, 11:28


Yeehaw.
This should be a sticky. Based. While most people agree with Toto’s stance, because facts don’t lie, I still can’t understand why a tiny minority continue to hide what happened at Abu Dhabi 2021. They conveniently forget that Hamilton dominated the last four races, which included Abu Dhabi, building up to that moment. It’s telling when even Bernie Ecclestone, of all people, came out in support of Hamilton, stating that he was the real WDC winner. If the situation had been reversed, I would have supported Red Bull too, but that’s not what transpired. Stick to the rules, and let the facts speak for themselves.

What I can’t understand is why Mercedes chose to drop their legal case against F1, which clearly was the most straightforward, open-and-shut case in their favor. Even F1 had to apologize to Hamilton for their mistake. Probably the darkest day for F1 ever, which is why most still find it disgusting bringing up. I recall a few races back in 2024, you heard Crofty, Brundle, and Kravitz talk extensively during a race and all agreed it was a complete travesty against Hamilton.

Anyway, thanks for the share.

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zeroday wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 21:59
Cocles wrote:
27 Dec 2024, 11:28


Yeehaw.
This should be a sticky. Based. While most people agree with Toto’s stance, because facts don’t lie, I still can’t understand why a tiny minority continue to hide what happened at Abu Dhabi 2021. They conveniently forget that Hamilton dominated the last four races, which included Abu Dhabi, building up to that moment. It’s telling when even Bernie Ecclestone, of all people, came out in support of Hamilton, stating that he was the real WDC winner. If the situation had been reversed, I would have supported Red Bull too, but that’s not what transpired. Stick to the rules, and let the facts speak for themselves.

What I can’t understand is why Mercedes chose to drop their legal case against F1, which clearly was the most straightforward, open-and-shut case in their favor. Even F1 had to apologize to Hamilton for their mistake. Probably the darkest day for F1 ever, which is why most still find it disgusting bringing up. I recall a few races back in 2024, you heard Crofty, Brundle, and Kravitz talk extensively during a race and all agreed it was a complete travesty against Hamilton.

Anyway, thanks for the share.
Whilst in legal opposition to the FIA, Mercedes would have had to pull all Mercedes related competition from FIA sanctioned events.

So any GT car, their PU supply, their F1 team itself etc.