2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[mwillems]

Some analysis that suggests the mini DRS was almost unnoticeable in effect at Monza (About a single KPH) and would have had little impact at Vegas. It won't be without benefit, just very little. In Q almost none. Main benefit was Baku.

https://www.planetf1.com/features/new-m ... erformance

It gives me hope for the '26 season and it's aero rules,Rob Marshall will be king!!!

He might, but not from designing any aero. He's boss of the mechanical side.

[the EDGE]

https://i.imgur.com/StKR0Gl.png

This gap in poles is hilariously painful. Ignoring that "lucky" weather-affected session in Sochi, they literally just had a car capable of pole for the first time in 12 years this season.

You don’t need to remind us… each and every year has left a scar still, that’s all forgotten now…. CHAMPIONNNNNS

[taperoo2k]

Some analysis that suggests the mini DRS was almost unnoticeable in effect at Monza (About a single KPH) and would have had little impact at Vegas. It won't be without benefit, just very little. In Q almost none. Main benefit was Baku.

https://www.planetf1.com/features/new-m ... erformance

It gives me hope for the '26 season and it's aero rules,Rob Marshall will be king!!!

He might, but not from designing any aero. He's boss of the mechanical side.

I expect we'll see his full impact on the suspension and mechnical side on the
2025 car (no doubt he's had input on the '24 car from an in season development point of view). It's a double whammy of regulation changes in '26. Teams will need good mechnical and aero platforms to get the best out of the cars.

It'll be interesting to see how McLaren packages the '26 Mercedes PU into the chassis compared to how Mercedes package it. Hopefully Mercedes produce the goods on the PU front. The starting pistol gets fired on the '26 development relatively soon.

[mclaren111]

It gives me hope for the '26 season and it's aero rules,Rob Marshall will be king!!!

He might, but not from designing any aero. He's boss of the mechanical side.

I expect we'll see his full impact on the suspension and mechnical side on the
2025 car (no doubt he's had input on the '24 car from an in season development point of view). It's a double whammy of regulation changes in '26. Teams will need good mechnical and aero platforms to get the best out of the cars.

It'll be interesting to see how McLaren packages the '26 Mercedes PU into the chassis compared to how Mercedes package it. Hopefully Mercedes produce the goods on the PU front. The starting pistol gets fired on the '26 development relatively soon.

And I think we've produced enough Rear Wings this year to use in 2025 as well...

[taperoo2k]

He might, but not from designing any aero. He's boss of the mechanical side.

I expect we'll see his full impact on the suspension and mechnical side on the
2025 car (no doubt he's had input on the '24 car from an in season development point of view). It's a double whammy of regulation changes in '26. Teams will need good mechnical and aero platforms to get the best out of the cars.

It'll be interesting to see how McLaren packages the '26 Mercedes PU into the chassis compared to how Mercedes package it. Hopefully Mercedes produce the goods on the PU front. The starting pistol gets fired on the '26 development relatively soon.

And I think we've produced enough Rear Wings this year to use in 2025 as well...

I expect a few of the track specific rear wings will be used in 2025. It'll be a tough season as I expect things will
be tight between McLaren, Ferrari and Redbull. Not sure about Mercedes, they still seem no closer to understanding the current regulation set.

[the EDGE]

I expect we'll see his full impact on the suspension and mechnical side on the
2025 car (no doubt he's had input on the '24 car from an in season development point of view). It's a double whammy of regulation changes in '26. Teams will need good mechnical and aero platforms to get the best out of the cars.

It'll be interesting to see how McLaren packages the '26 Mercedes PU into the chassis compared to how Mercedes package it. Hopefully Mercedes produce the goods on the PU front. The starting pistol gets fired on the '26 development relatively soon.

And I think we've produced enough Rear Wings this year to use in 2025 as well...

I expect a few of the track specific rear wings will be used in 2025. It'll be a tough season as I expect things will
be tight between McLaren, Ferrari and Redbull. Not sure about Mercedes, they still seem no closer to understanding the current regulation set.

Don’t be so sure about Merc, of the last 14 races (more than the last 1/2 a season):-
McLaren won 5
Merc won 4
Farrari won 3
RB won 2

[Emag]

And I think we've produced enough Rear Wings this year to use in 2025 as well...

I expect a few of the track specific rear wings will be used in 2025. It'll be a tough season as I expect things will
be tight between McLaren, Ferrari and Redbull. Not sure about Mercedes, they still seem no closer to understanding the current regulation set.

Don’t be so sure about Merc, of the last 14 races (more than the last 1/2 a season):-
McLaren won 5
Merc won 4
Farrari won 3
RB won 2

Except Vegas and to some extent Spa, the other 2 races were gifted to Mercedes.

[Darth-Piekus]

In the meantime I've read that Max Verstappen criticized that whoever criticizes his driving style lacks championship mentality. Next year Red Bull might not be that good from the start and he might be forced to chase instead of gaining a 50 point lead. I wonder if he will keep that same energy when Russell, Lando, Oscar, Leclerc, Hamilton starts closing the door making him take a risk of DNF. Will he claim that these drivers drive with a championship mentality then if he is on the receiving end? Personally I would love to see Oscar making some bold defensive moves on Max just to see him go into gamer rage.

[bluechris]

In the meantime I've read that Max Verstappen criticized that whoever criticizes his driving style lacks championship mentality. Next year Red Bull might not be that good from the start and he might be forced to chase instead of gaining a 50 point lead. I wonder if he will keep that same energy when Russell, Lando, Oscar, Leclerc, Hamilton starts closing the door making him take a risk of DNF. Will he claim that these drivers drive with a championship mentality then if he is on the receiving end? Personally I would love to see Oscar making some bold defensive moves on Max just to see him go into gamer rage.

Aren't we all hoping the same?

[ScottR267]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mcla ... ock-anchor

Good read on the impact of Rob Marshall

[bauc]

In the meantime I've read that Max Verstappen criticized that whoever criticizes his driving style lacks championship mentality. Next year Red Bull might not be that good from the start and he might be forced to chase instead of gaining a 50 point lead. I wonder if he will keep that same energy when Russell, Lando, Oscar, Leclerc, Hamilton starts closing the door making him take a risk of DNF. Will he claim that these drivers drive with a championship mentality then if he is on the receiving end? Personally I would love to see Oscar making some bold defensive moves on Max just to see him go into gamer rage.

He (Max) thinks he is like Senna, as Senna was a driver who would put other drivers in a position where they have to decided if they will back off or there will be a crash, Senna never was the guy who yield, BUT.... this was done in a more intelligent manner with a proper set up (in most cases) what Max does is by brute force and above the limit of the rules.... AKA gray zone racing .... I consider this topic closed, I expect, if Mclaren can stay competitive in 2025, to both NOR and PIA outrace him strategically over the course of the season.

[bauc]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mcla ... ock-anchor

Good read on the impact of Rob Marshall

Rob has been the ''dark horse'' since joining Mclaren from RBR, he is a hell of a asset for any team to have

[the EDGE]

In the meantime I've read that Max Verstappen criticized that whoever criticizes his driving style lacks championship mentality. Next year Red Bull might not be that good from the start and he might be forced to chase instead of gaining a 50 point lead. I wonder if he will keep that same energy when Russell, Lando, Oscar, Leclerc, Hamilton starts closing the door making him take a risk of DNF. Will he claim that these drivers drive with a championship mentality then if he is on the receiving end? Personally I would love to see Oscar making some bold defensive moves on Max just to see him go into gamer rage.

He (Max) thinks he is like Senna, as Senna was a driver who would put other drivers in a position where they have to decided if they will back off or there will be a crash, Senna never was the guy who yield, BUT.... this was done in a more intelligent manner with a proper set up (in most cases) what Max does is by brute force and above the limit of the rules.... AKA gray zone racing .... I consider this topic closed, I expect, if Mclaren can stay competitive in 2025, to both NOR and PIA outrace him strategically over the course of the season.

That is his one weakness that others need to exploit because Max is so close to a race ban he is going to have no choice but to keep it clean or sit in the bench for a weekend

[Big Tea]

In the meantime I've read that Max Verstappen criticized that whoever criticizes his driving style lacks championship mentality. Next year Red Bull might not be that good from the start and he might be forced to chase instead of gaining a 50 point lead. I wonder if he will keep that same energy when Russell, Lando, Oscar, Leclerc, Hamilton starts closing the door making him take a risk of DNF. Will he claim that these drivers drive with a championship mentality then if he is on the receiving end? Personally I would love to see Oscar making some bold defensive moves on Max just to see him go into gamer rage.

He (Max) thinks he is like Senna, as Senna was a driver who would put other drivers in a position where they have to decided if they will back off or there will be a crash, Senna never was the guy who yield, BUT.... this was done in a more intelligent manner with a proper set up (in most cases) what Max does is by brute force and above the limit of the rules.... AKA gray zone racing .... I consider this topic closed, I expect, if Mclaren can stay competitive in 2025, to both NOR and PIA outrace him strategically over the course of the season.

That is his one weakness that others need to exploit because Max is so close to a race ban he is going to have no choice but to keep it clean or sit in the bench for a weekend

I suspect his mindset would be ---- it, get my ban and start the following race with a clean card again.

[BMMR61]

In the meantime I've read that Max Verstappen criticized that whoever criticizes his driving style lacks championship mentality. Next year Red Bull might not be that good from the start and he might be forced to chase instead of gaining a 50 point lead. I wonder if he will keep that same energy when Russell, Lando, Oscar, Leclerc, Hamilton starts closing the door making him take a risk of DNF. Will he claim that these drivers drive with a championship mentality then if he is on the receiving end? Personally I would love to see Oscar making some bold defensive moves on Max just to see him go into gamer rage.

He (Max) thinks he is like Senna, as Senna was a driver who would put other drivers in a position where they have to decided if they will back off or there will be a crash, Senna never was the guy who yield, BUT.... this was done in a more intelligent manner with a proper set up (in most cases) what Max does is by brute force and above the limit of the rules.... AKA gray zone racing .... I consider this topic closed, I expect, if Mclaren can stay competitive in 2025, to both NOR and PIA outrace him strategically over the course of the season.

For some time it's been my mindset that Max is a contemporary of Senna. As the order of greats (impossible really given the difference of eras) I rate Max alongside Senna for ability and talent, an actual great of F1 that we are experiencing in real time. Now this will upset some of the "Senna is God" fans but I'd suggest there is every reason with the 2024 Brazil drive to see that as a parallel to Senna's Donnington masterclass. I don't see these drivers as God's they're all fallible, Senna couldn't defeat physics and didn't survive his turbulent career. Max is of course living in a safer era but his recklessness or bravado, for want of a better word is on a similar level. Max on Lando in Austin (his second of two dive-bombs) was getting close to Senna at Suzuka - inarguably deplorable and not at all adequately punished.

Bringing it around to a McLaren point, I think Oscar, for such a quiet personality, has some level of bravery. Some may disagree but I have seen it in aspects of his driving. I think he may develop into the nemesis of Max, Abu Dhabi turn 1 may just be the first chapter of something dramatic. He appears to have a certain Max self containment without the outright ruthlessness levels of Max. It sets an anticipation for McLaren v Red Bull in 2025 that is exciting, though it risks official intervention should it get too obviously gladiatorial. Maybe Oscar could unwittingly or otherwise play a foil for Lando at the front of the field, as I think it will be some time before Lawson gets on the pace of these guys.
Exciting times in 2025 for McLaren I'm sure!