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FW17 wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 15:33
I wonder why people are making an issue of this? If the f words are not beeped out and broadcast on TV, TV company gets a notice from national regulator with a hefty fine, who is to pay? Why should someone be employed just to beep out some b****asd who f*****in earns a million dollars? It is like paying some one to wipe sombody elses a***s
It's FOM that decides what is broadcasted.
If they decide to broadcast only swear-free team radio all would be fine.

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lio007 wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 18:19
FW17 wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 15:33
I wonder why people are making an issue of this? If the f words are not beeped out and broadcast on TV, TV company gets a notice from national regulator with a hefty fine, who is to pay? Why should someone be employed just to beep out some b****asd who f*****in earns a million dollars? It is like paying some one to wipe sombody elses a***s
It's FOM that decides what is broadcasted.
If they decide to broadcast only swear-free team radio all would be fine.
Why should it be beeped if it is socially acceptable?

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As LawVS points out, this is retrospective and can go back two years!

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djos wrote:
25 Jan 2025, 07:26
As LawVS points out, this is retrospective and can go back two years!

Sounds like a complete a hole.

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FW17 wrote:
25 Jan 2025, 08:11
djos wrote:
25 Jan 2025, 07:26
As LawVS points out, this is retrospective and can go back two years!

Sounds like a complete a hole.
Who, the chap making the video or the clown running the FIA?
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FW17 wrote:
25 Jan 2025, 06:04
lio007 wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 18:19
FW17 wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 15:33
I wonder why people are making an issue of this? If the f words are not beeped out and broadcast on TV, TV company gets a notice from national regulator with a hefty fine, who is to pay? Why should someone be employed just to beep out some b****asd who f*****in earns a million dollars? It is like paying some one to wipe sombody elses a***s
It's FOM that decides what is broadcasted.
If they decide to broadcast only swear-free team radio all would be fine.
Why should it be beeped if it is socially acceptable?
For me they don't have to beep anything, I'm old enough to deal with it :)
In terms of role models and the younger audience I can at least understand it a bit. Sometimes I really have the feeling that kids use all but appropriate language.

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lio007 wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 18:19
FW17 wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 15:33
I wonder why people are making an issue of this? If the f words are not beeped out and broadcast on TV, TV company gets a notice from national regulator with a hefty fine, who is to pay? Why should someone be employed just to beep out some b****asd who f*****in earns a million dollars? It is like paying some one to wipe sombody elses a***s
It's FOM that decides what is broadcasted.
If they decide to broadcast only swear-free team radio all would be fine.
Is there a delay on the live press-conferences?
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FW17 wrote:
25 Jan 2025, 06:04
lio007 wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 18:19
FW17 wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 15:33
I wonder why people are making an issue of this? If the f words are not beeped out and broadcast on TV, TV company gets a notice from national regulator with a hefty fine, who is to pay? Why should someone be employed just to beep out some b****asd who f*****in earns a million dollars? It is like paying some one to wipe sombody elses a***s
It's FOM that decides what is broadcasted.
If they decide to broadcast only swear-free team radio all would be fine.
Why should it be beeped if it is socially acceptable?
What is socially acceptable to some people is offensive to others. Particularly for a sport that wants to appeal to all ages (see the licencing deal with Lego). In many places swearing is not acceptable and as another poster pointed out, can even land a broadcaster in trouble with the regulators.

Personally I don't understand why F1 drivers should not be held to the same standards as other public figures and professionals. A teacher or lawyer would get in trouble for swearing in a classroom or courtroom. F1 drivers are paid a lot more and so should be able to act professionally.

Now, in car radio is a whole different matter. FOM chooses what to broadcast and I don't think anyone can blame drivers for reacting in the heat of the moment. I mean who amongst us hasn't uttered the odd expletive when another road user nearly hits us and cuts us up etc lol
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Does anyone even broadcast them live?

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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
26 Jan 2025, 23:36
FW17 wrote:
25 Jan 2025, 06:04
lio007 wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 18:19

It's FOM that decides what is broadcasted.
If they decide to broadcast only swear-free team radio all would be fine.
Why should it be beeped if it is socially acceptable?
What is socially acceptable to some people is offensive to others. Particularly for a sport that wants to appeal to all ages (see the licencing deal with Lego). In many places swearing is not acceptable and as another poster pointed out, can even land a broadcaster in trouble with the regulators.

Personally I don't understand why F1 drivers should not be held to the same standards as other public figures and professionals. A teacher or lawyer would get in trouble for swearing in a classroom or courtroom. F1 drivers are paid a lot more and so should be able to act professionally.

Now, in car radio is a whole different matter. FOM chooses what to broadcast and I don't think anyone can blame drivers for reacting in the heat of the moment. I mean who amongst us hasn't uttered the odd expletive when another road user nearly hits us and cuts us up etc lol
Heat of the moment flaming is exactly what the entire population is being told not to do when behind the wheel of a motor vehicle.

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I was listening to The hitch hikers guide to the Galaxy for the Nth time today, and the joke about the very prestigious movie award for “The most gratuitous use of the work F’k” gave me an idea.

The FIA should create an annual Raspberry style Award for “The most gratuitous use of a swear word during a race weekend”.

The idea is that drivers won’t want the award and will likely only swear in the heat of the moment, rather than gratuitously.

This imo would be a lot more effective than over the top fines.
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FW17 wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 02:53
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
26 Jan 2025, 23:36
FW17 wrote:
25 Jan 2025, 06:04


Why should it be beeped if it is socially acceptable?
What is socially acceptable to some people is offensive to others. Particularly for a sport that wants to appeal to all ages (see the licencing deal with Lego). In many places swearing is not acceptable and as another poster pointed out, can even land a broadcaster in trouble with the regulators.

Personally I don't understand why F1 drivers should not be held to the same standards as other public figures and professionals. A teacher or lawyer would get in trouble for swearing in a classroom or courtroom. F1 drivers are paid a lot more and so should be able to act professionally.

Now, in car radio is a whole different matter. FOM chooses what to broadcast and I don't think anyone can blame drivers for reacting in the heat of the moment. I mean who amongst us hasn't uttered the odd expletive when another road user nearly hits us and cuts us up etc lol
Heat of the moment flaming is exactly what the entire population is being told not to do when behind the wheel of a motor vehicle.
I think it's OK to curse behind the wheel of your car, as long as that is all it is and not rage driving.

In the broadcasts of the team chatter, it feels to me like it is the FIAs responsibility not to broadcast poor language, they have full control over whether something is broadcast, bleeped etc If they don't like colourful language in these radio chats, then don't broadcast them, leave the drivers in their space, it's intense and you need to recognise that.

In the interviews it is a different matter, I feel. As soon as you are out of the car I can't see any reason why you don't have a responsibility to keep it family friendly. I don't care what drivers think of whether kids should hear swearing, I don't want my TV peppered with colourful language whilst my 3 year old is in the room. I don't particularly want them exposed to swearing until they are old enough to understand the rules around the words.
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mwillems wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 13:23
FW17 wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 02:53
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
26 Jan 2025, 23:36


What is socially acceptable to some people is offensive to others. Particularly for a sport that wants to appeal to all ages (see the licencing deal with Lego). In many places swearing is not acceptable and as another poster pointed out, can even land a broadcaster in trouble with the regulators.

Personally I don't understand why F1 drivers should not be held to the same standards as other public figures and professionals. A teacher or lawyer would get in trouble for swearing in a classroom or courtroom. F1 drivers are paid a lot more and so should be able to act professionally.

Now, in car radio is a whole different matter. FOM chooses what to broadcast and I don't think anyone can blame drivers for reacting in the heat of the moment. I mean who amongst us hasn't uttered the odd expletive when another road user nearly hits us and cuts us up etc lol
Heat of the moment flaming is exactly what the entire population is being told not to do when behind the wheel of a motor vehicle.
I think it's OK to curse behind the wheel of your car, as long as that is all it is and not rage driving.

In the broadcasts of the team chatter, it feels to me like it is the FIAs responsibility not to broadcast poor language, they have full control over whether something is broadcast, bleeped etc If they don't like colourful language in these radio chats, then don't broadcast them, leave the drivers in their space, it's intense and you need to recognise that.

In the interviews it is a different matter, I feel. As soon as you are out of the car I can't see any reason why you don't have a responsibility to keep it family friendly. I don't care what drivers think of whether kids should hear swearing, I don't want my TV peppered with colourful language whilst my 3 year old is in the room. I don't particularly want them exposed to swearing until they are old enough to understand the rules around the words.
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You do realize this is just about press conferences? How many times have you heard someone swear there?
You're talking about peppered with colourful language/swearing. I've never heard of a 3 year old listening to a PC.
If they're in the room at all, they're playing and in their own little world. They don't listen to that at all.
That doesn't mean I think it's necessary to swear, I don't like it, but peppered with swearing is a huge exaggeration
the few times it's happened.
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Wouter wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 14:40
mwillems wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 13:23
FW17 wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 02:53


Heat of the moment flaming is exactly what the entire population is being told not to do when behind the wheel of a motor vehicle.
I think it's OK to curse behind the wheel of your car, as long as that is all it is and not rage driving.

In the broadcasts of the team chatter, it feels to me like it is the FIAs responsibility not to broadcast poor language, they have full control over whether something is broadcast, bleeped etc If they don't like colourful language in these radio chats, then don't broadcast them, leave the drivers in their space, it's intense and you need to recognise that.

In the interviews it is a different matter, I feel. As soon as you are out of the car I can't see any reason why you don't have a responsibility to keep it family friendly. I don't care what drivers think of whether kids should hear swearing, I don't want my TV peppered with colourful language whilst my 3 year old is in the room. I don't particularly want them exposed to swearing until they are old enough to understand the rules around the words.
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You do realize this is just about press conferences? How many times have you heard someone swear there?
You're talking about peppered with colourful language/swearing. I've never heard of a 3 year old listening to a PC.
If they're in the room at all, they're playing and in their own little world. They don't listen to that at all.
That doesn't mean I think it's necessary to swear, I don't like it, but peppered with swearing is a huge exaggeration
the few times it's happened.
I think you're going a bit far. I'm not suggesting that there is loads, I just don't want it in the interviews so I'm fine with the punishment. It's the internet, don't take every word to the extreme :D
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mwillems wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 15:06
Wouter wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 14:40
mwillems wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 13:23


I think it's OK to curse behind the wheel of your car, as long as that is all it is and not rage driving.

In the broadcasts of the team chatter, it feels to me like it is the FIAs responsibility not to broadcast poor language, they have full control over whether something is broadcast, bleeped etc If they don't like colourful language in these radio chats, then don't broadcast them, leave the drivers in their space, it's intense and you need to recognise that.

In the interviews it is a different matter, I feel. As soon as you are out of the car I can't see any reason why you don't have a responsibility to keep it family friendly. I don't care what drivers think of whether kids should hear swearing, I don't want my TV peppered with colourful language whilst my 3 year old is in the room. I don't particularly want them exposed to swearing until they are old enough to understand the rules around the words.
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You do realize this is just about press conferences? How many times have you heard someone swear there?
You're talking about peppered with colourful language/swearing. I've never heard of a 3 year old listening to a PC.
If they're in the room at all, they're playing and in their own little world. They don't listen to that at all.
That doesn't mean I think it's necessary to swear, I don't like it, but peppered with swearing is a huge exaggeration
the few times it's happened.
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I think you're going a bit far. I'm not suggesting that there is loads, I just don't want it in the interviews so I'm fine with the punishment. It's the internet, don't take every word to the extreme :D
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English isn't my native language but how would you explane "I don't want my TV peppered with colourful language"?
AFAIK peppered doesn't mean once in a while but many times/often/overloaded.
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