2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[-wkst-]

https://racingnews365.com/aston-martin- ... t=13917180

Sounds like the new wind tunnel is in use now, but I am still a bit sceptical, if that’s really the case or just an assumption of this site.

[KimiRai]

https://racingnews365.com/aston-martin- ... t=13917180

Sounds like the new wind tunnel is in use now, but I am still a bit sceptical, if that’s really the case or just an assumption of this site.

The construction of the first new wind tunnel to be built in 20 years for F1 testing purposes was completed in the second half of last year. It was then passed onto Aston Martin to begin the commissioning phase, which has now been completed.

It means for the first time since the Silverstone-based marque was once known as Force India almost two decades ago, it is using its own development facility, rather than relying on the Mercedes wind tunnel at Brackley, nine miles away.

Interesting! Yeah it would be good if some other source confirmed it so we have more certainty. In theory from what was said previously, it was about to be finished around this time or a bit later.

[Sherrinford]

https://racingnews365.com/aston-martin- ... t=13917180

Sounds like the new wind tunnel is in use now, but I am still a bit sceptical, if that’s really the case or just an assumption of this site.

The construction of the first new wind tunnel to be built in 20 years for F1 testing purposes was completed in the second half of last year. It was then passed onto Aston Martin to begin the commissioning phase, which has now been completed.

It means for the first time since the Silverstone-based marque was once known as Force India almost two decades ago, it is using its own development facility, rather than relying on the Mercedes wind tunnel at Brackley, nine miles away.

Interesting! Yeah it would be good if some other source confirmed it so we have more certainty. In theory from what was said previously, it was about to be finished around this time or a bit later.

If true, it's a great news and almost 1 month before the Bahrain tests

[diffuser]

https://racingnews365.com/aston-martin- ... t=13917180

Sounds like the new wind tunnel is in use now, but I am still a bit sceptical, if that’s really the case or just an assumption of this site.

The construction of the first new wind tunnel to be built in 20 years for F1 testing purposes was completed in the second half of last year. It was then passed onto Aston Martin to begin the commissioning phase, which has now been completed.

It means for the first time since the Silverstone-based marque was once known as Force India almost two decades ago, it is using its own development facility, rather than relying on the Mercedes wind tunnel at Brackley, nine miles away.

Interesting! Yeah it would be good if some other source confirmed it so we have more certainty. In theory from what was said previously, it was about to be finished around this time or a bit later.

If true, it's a great news and almost 1 month before the Bahrain tests

You'd think that they'd still use the Merc WT primarily. With duplicate tests on their own WT to compare for a time.

[-wkst-]

https://racingnews365.com/aston-martin- ... t=13917180

Sounds like the new wind tunnel is in use now, but I am still a bit sceptical, if that’s really the case or just an assumption of this site.

The construction of the first new wind tunnel to be built in 20 years for F1 testing purposes was completed in the second half of last year. It was then passed onto Aston Martin to begin the commissioning phase, which has now been completed.

It means for the first time since the Silverstone-based marque was once known as Force India almost two decades ago, it is using its own development facility, rather than relying on the Mercedes wind tunnel at Brackley, nine miles away.

Interesting! Yeah it would be good if some other source confirmed it so we have more certainty. In theory from what was said previously, it was about to be finished around this time or a bit later.

As I said I am still a bit sceptical, as there are no direct quotes of Krack that they use it now. The quotes of Krack are all about the future and not the presence. Naturally some AMR twitter fan accounts present it already as a fact, premature as often with no double check...

Reading a lot of articles about AMR in the winter break, you notice how often (especially click-bait sites) use quotes, which were already made at the season final in Abu Dhabi, presenting them as they were talking to the person just currently.

But February was obviously the target (Krack in Abu Dhabi: "in 2-3 months").

[collindsilva]

https://racingnews365.com/aston-martin- ... t=13917180

Sounds like the new wind tunnel is in use now, but I am still a bit sceptical, if that’s really the case or just an assumption of this site.

The construction of the first new wind tunnel to be built in 20 years for F1 testing purposes was completed in the second half of last year. It was then passed onto Aston Martin to begin the commissioning phase, which has now been completed.

It means for the first time since the Silverstone-based marque was once known as Force India almost two decades ago, it is using its own development facility, rather than relying on the Mercedes wind tunnel at Brackley, nine miles away.

Interesting! Yeah it would be good if some other source confirmed it so we have more certainty. In theory from what was said previously, it was about to be finished around this time or a bit later.

As I said I am still a bit sceptical, as there are no direct quotes of Krack that they use it now. The quotes of Krack are all about the future and not the presence. Naturally some AMR twitter fan accounts present it already as a fact, premature as often with no double check...

Reading a lot of articles about AMR in the winter break, you notice how often (especially click-bait sites) use quotes, which were already made at the season final in Abu Dhabi, presenting them as they were talking to the person just currently.

But February was obviously the target (Krack in Abu Dhabi: "in 2-3 months").

It is very quiet from the team, no statements on the car developments or the Wind Tunnel. So we can expect some surprises, Good or bad, fingers crossed.

[ispano6]

Interesting! Yeah it would be good if some other source confirmed it so we have more certainty. In theory from what was said previously, it was about to be finished around this time or a bit later.

If true, it's a great news and almost 1 month before the Bahrain tests

You'd think that they'd still use the Merc WT primarily. With duplicate tests on their own WT to compare for a time.

Why not leverage Honda's HALO wind tunnel, which has been in commission for over 2 years and has been used for Indycar and WEC. It should be capable of providing correlation data of both WTs and possibly an avenue to not count toward aero time if Honda is comparing data of previous year cars.

[Sherrinford]

If true, it's a great news and almost 1 month before the Bahrain tests

You'd think that they'd still use the Merc WT primarily. With duplicate tests on their own WT to compare for a time.

Why not leverage Honda's HALO wind tunnel, which has been in commission for over 2 years and has been used for Indycar and WEC. It should be capable of providing correlation data of both WTs and possibly an avenue to not count toward aero time if Honda is comparing data of previous year cars.

If it's already difficult with two galleries, how do you think with three?

[FNTC]

Part 2 of the Newey interview:

[KimiRai]

Mark Hughes thinks the Honda comments were lost in translation (paywall so here's the full article)

The key reason Honda's engine 'struggles' are lost in translation

Honda says it's struggling with 'technically challenging' 2026 Aston Martin power unit but Newey and Stroll shouldn't worry just yet

Comments by Honda Racing Corporation boss Koji Watanabe at the recent Daytona 24 Hours that the company is struggling with development of its 2026 F1 power unit for Aston Martin have sent alarm bells ringing through F1 – and potentially for Adrian Newey who officially starts on March 3.

Speaking to journalists, Watanabe is quoted as saying, “We are struggling. Now we are trying our best to show the result next year. Everything is new. The [electric] motor is a new 355-kW, very compact one we need.

“Also the lightweight battery, it’s not so easy to develop. And also the small engine with the big power. Everything is very difficult, but we try our best.”

But these comments are probably best viewed through a ‘Lost in Translation’ lens. What Watanabe seems to be describing is just how technically challenging the new PU formula is, especially around the electrical motor and battery which have been conceived to deliver around double the power of the existing F1 electrical motors. If it was easy in these formative stages, it would suggest you’ve probably got something wrong – that it’s going to be too heavy or too bulky or if those targets are achieved, then the worry will be whether it’s competitive on power.

This is new technology and everyone is stretching to find what the defining limits are. It’s one thing to set targets and meet them, quite another to know if you’ve set the right targets. This is always how it is at the beginning of a new formula.

So, based on decades of observing this sort of thing, I’d say those comments do not mean what they are being interpreted as meaning. I’d say, it’s Watanabe’s second language and he’s striving to get across the inherent extent of the ‘challenge’ of the whole process. In the early stages of any tough challenge, it will by definition be a struggle. Similar ‘struggles’ you can be sure will be taking place at Ferrari, Mercedes and Red Bull to greater or lesser degrees. Furthermore, development in these early stages tends to progress in steps as breakthroughs are made. It is rarely linear. Each breakthrough made can completely change the ranking.

Where each of the PU manufacturers believe they are can only be an internal measure at this time. The natural behaviour for any properly competitive F1 engineer at this stage will be to assume that you are not ahead, that you may be behind and that you must continue striving hard to find the secrets. Any engineer saying, ‘Oh, we’ve cracked it,’ would be ridiculed for not understanding the extent of the challenge. Because the company up the road may have cracked it 10 times better than you. Competitive paranoia drives the sport forward.

But the way these things work, just because a comment could be interpreted in a way which would make a bigger news splash inevitably means it will be. So Watanabe’s comments will for certain have generated headlines suggesting that Honda is deep in trouble with the programme, maybe even manifesting the ghost of the company’s initially disastrous hybrid motor of 2015 and perhaps how this is potentially awful news for Aston Martin’s future prospects with its ’26 Adrian Newey wonder car potentially stymied by a feeble motor.

Forget it all. It’s just noise.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/arti ... anslation/

We'll see next year I guess. For now 2025 is right ahead and it's important still.

[Sasha]

HRC Leaders words was Lost in Translation.
He was just explaining how hard a challenge it's going to be not that Honda is having problems. This is one of the reasons the Japanese do not like to talk to the Western press.