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JPBD1990 wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 11:18
The sidepod intakes do indeed seem further back this year. Anyone good with photoshop? Usually the little comparisons are available with the slider from previous car to the new one but I haven’t seen anything of the like this year.
Sidepods are at the same place but the inlet has been pushed back, so the top lip looks bigger in comparison as well.

I will try to make a comparison pic later to show this better.
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JPBD1990 wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 11:18
The sidepod intakes do indeed seem further back this year. Anyone good with photoshop? Usually the little comparisons are available with the slider from previous car to the new one but I haven’t seen anything of the like this year.
Don't have a slider, but here you can have a bit better picture.

This one is from monaco last year

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Last year they were starting right around mirror position, now is a bit backwards.

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F1NAC wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 11:41
JPBD1990 wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 11:18
The sidepod intakes do indeed seem further back this year. Anyone good with photoshop? Usually the little comparisons are available with the slider from previous car to the new one but I haven’t seen anything of the like this year.
Don't have a slider, but here you can have a bit better picture.

This one is from monaco last year

https://www.raceland.eu/$WS/raceland/we ... -19863.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkIyurmXUAI ... name=large

Last year they were starting right around mirror position, now is a bit backwards.
Indeed, and here you can see how larger the undercut is. The paint goes down roughly where last years sidepod went, but the actual sidepod is a lot higher.

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Nice engine cover
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dialtone wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 05:08
I think the new MCL has a similar rear wing concept.

The car looks fairly aggressive in the details, lots of surfaces that were much simpler in the last couple of years are now a lot more developed like above sidepods, above the floor inlet and the inlet stakes, the engine cover surface seems a lot more sculpted, the belly also required some cooling optimizations to make it so tight.

Looking forward to see it at testing.
There`s a rumor that the SF-25 adopted the same air intake opening near the Cobra winglet as the RB-20 car. It was not seen on the rendering and at the Fiorano test today coz of the low ambient temperatures. This could be true since there is a cooling opening back on the engine cover, meaning there`s a cooling optimization done even at this higher level of the sidepod, hence they ditched the S-duct cooling thus increasing the cooling airflow speed further down to the added airflow that is coming from the vertical part of the sidepod air intake ...

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Emag wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 11:26
JPBD1990 wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 11:18
The sidepod intakes do indeed seem further back this year. Anyone good with photoshop? Usually the little comparisons are available with the slider from previous car to the new one but I haven’t seen anything of the like this year.
Sidepods are at the same place but the inlet has been pushed back, so the top lip looks bigger in comparison as well.

I will try to make a comparison pic later to show this better.
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I think the inlet hasn't really moved per say, there is just less bodywork around the opening making it appear that way.
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I dont think it will have, and im not sure even RB will have, i think its one of the areas they found they went wrong. But its my personal opinion
atanatizante wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 12:12
dialtone wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 05:08
I think the new MCL has a similar rear wing concept.

The car looks fairly aggressive in the details, lots of surfaces that were much simpler in the last couple of years are now a lot more developed like above sidepods, above the floor inlet and the inlet stakes, the engine cover surface seems a lot more sculpted, the belly also required some cooling optimizations to make it so tight.

Looking forward to see it at testing.
There`s a rumor that the SF-25 adopted the same air intake opening near the Cobra winglet as the RB-20 car. It was not seen on the rendering and at the Fiorano test today coz of the low ambient temperatures. This could be true since there is a cooling opening back on the engine cover, meaning there`s a cooling optimization done even at this higher level of the sidepod, hence they ditched the S-duct cooling thus increasing the cooling airflow speed further down to the added airflow that is coming from the vertical part of the sidepod air intake ...

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Thanks for the comparison shots everyone, I didn’t have a snowballs chance in hell of doing it with nothing but my (lack of) skills and an iPhone.

The inlet does indeed start considerably further back. Impressive then that they’ve also been able to increase the size of the undercut, without increasing the size of the airbox inlet. There must be one hell of a reorganisation in the cooling, or miniaturisation, or both, to pull that off.

As Serra has been quoted saying, the new front suspension may be the most immediately obvious change, but the car does indeed appear to be almost completely new.

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SiLo wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 12:33
I think the inlet hasn't really moved per say, there is just less bodywork around the opening making it appear that way.
I think you’re right actually. I wonder then why they’ve determined the less sculpted inlet to be beneficial

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Rear wing seems similar to McLaren's optimized medium-df wing they brought in Brazil last year (wasn't raced in Brazil I believe because of the rain).

From these photos it looks like Ferrari's wing has less "scoop" on the bottom plane, but I am not sure if it's just the angle being slightly further upwards on the Ferrari image.
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This guys Twitter thread (he may well post here so sorry to post on your behalf if so) contains a really decent analysis for anyone interested.



Also a nice comparison shot


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And frankly you’d expect the sidepod inlet to shrink in sympathy with any new opening, it looks about the same size to me eye as before just reshaped.
f1rules wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 12:33
I dont think it will have, and im not sure even RB will have, i think its one of the areas they found they went wrong. But its my personal opinion
atanatizante wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 12:12
dialtone wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 05:08
I think the new MCL has a similar rear wing concept.

The car looks fairly aggressive in the details, lots of surfaces that were much simpler in the last couple of years are now a lot more developed like above sidepods, above the floor inlet and the inlet stakes, the engine cover surface seems a lot more sculpted, the belly also required some cooling optimizations to make it so tight.

Looking forward to see it at testing.
There`s a rumor that the SF-25 adopted the same air intake opening near the Cobra winglet as the RB-20 car. It was not seen on the rendering and at the Fiorano test today coz of the low ambient temperatures. This could be true since there is a cooling opening back on the engine cover, meaning there`s a cooling optimization done even at this higher level of the sidepod, hence they ditched the S-duct cooling thus increasing the cooling airflow speed further down to the added airflow that is coming from the vertical part of the sidepod air intake ...

https://postimages.org/
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Have you noticed, that it looks like they already wanted to have the same inlet locations last year? If you look at last years car, the added panel at the s duct, and the main inlets, are exactly where this years inlets are.
Seems like, last year they had to fix something last minute by bringing them forward with added panels?
This was an eye sore all last year to me, always looked like something temporary.