Ferrari SF-25

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A very nice angle, you can see the new undercut and suspension elements very well.

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From the videos on instagram, it looks very nimble and precise on turn in. I think Charles will like it a lot.

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For those more technically minded, why is the angle on the McLaren more “aggressive”? Are they being literal - i.e. it’s simply a more aggressive angle? Or is one setup more ‘extreme’ than the other? If so, what would be the likely difference in kinematics?

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Nothing revolutionary, same overall concept, same basic proportions. Just lots of small evolutionary steps all over the car. Biggest structural change seems to be the front pull-rod.

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Cs98 wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 13:13
Nothing revolutionary, same overall concept, same basic proportions. Just lots of small evolutionary steps all over the car. Biggest structural change seems to be the front pull-rod.
In general, I agree but I also didn't really expect some radical new concept to pop up in the last year of these very restricted regulations.

It seems like Ferrari has optimized everything to the maximum with this car and there are a lot of details everywhere. It's interesting that Ferrari has shrinked their sidepods, whereas McLaren has bulked theirs up a bit (perhaps due to the new p-inlet and the reconfigured internals). Although McLaren had the slimiest sidepods last year so with the change for the MCL39, they are perhaps very close with Ferrari now. Ferrari seems really tight though but it's hard to compare with McLaren's camo livery. Better pics will be available next week for sure.

Remains to be seen what RedBull and Mercedes have done with their cars, but I would be very surprised if we see anything but some variant of this very same philosophy implemented somewhat differently.
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in all honesty mclaren and ferrari seem very very similar. Same p shape sidepod inlet. Mcl borrowed ferraris hotair outlet, ferrari adopted mcl's pod wings, both with pull rod front sus, both with vertical conditioner next to halo etc.
will be an interesting battle

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The renders are very accurate to the car in it's current form.

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Sevach wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 13:50
The renders are very accurate to the car in it's current form.
I don't think they're renders. They're photos superimposed over studio or digitally edited backgrounds. Ferrari has always published images which reflect the real car as it is. It's partly due to the strong branding. They don't want horrible copies of their car circulating around the internet. A Ferrari is supposed to be a Ferrari everywhere it's shared. They don't bother with show cars.
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JPBD1990 wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 13:05


For those more technically minded, why is the angle on the McLaren more “aggressive”? Are they being literal - i.e. it’s simply a more aggressive angle? Or is one setup more ‘extreme’ than the other? If so, what would be the likely difference in kinematics?
I assume it's just their different interpretations on using the wishbones to direct flow. You can see mclaren almost has a flap on the bottom element which I guess is guiding airflow to the floor?

In terms of kinematics and handling I'm not so sure.

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To me it makes sense why they've left the front wing alone. Why make a design which will only stick around until Barcelona - focus resources on sorting out the wing that could affect the balance a fair bit

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DJ Downforce wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 17:39
To me it makes sense why they've left the front wing alone. Why make a design which will only stick around until Barcelona - focus resources on sorting out the wing that could affect the balance a fair bit
Maybe they expected the anti flexi TD so they waited to introduce a new specification which will be complaint and a new design as well.

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I could be wrong, but the wishbone angles for the SF-25 seem to have less "anti dive" than the SF-24.

If true that'd be an interesting development IMO since the McLaren seems to be going pretty hard the other way