2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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TyreSlip wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 18:38
Does anyone have a link to a table of race pace laps between Stroll and other cars?
Better you don't see them, otherwise you'll get depressed
To answer someone above, I certainly didn't expect him to fight with McLaren. I expected a car that wouldn't degrade the tyres and would be 2.3 tenths a lap slower than the leading group. Instead what I have seen so far is a car that degrades the tyres and that is 0.5+ seconds per lap slower

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Alonso race sim tomorrow afternoon perhaps the most important moment (if it happens). If it continues to show signs of trouble then I would not be very confident for Melbourne

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Sherrinford wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 18:51
TyreSlip wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 18:38
Does anyone have a link to a table of race pace laps between Stroll and other cars?
Better you don't see them, otherwise you'll get depressed
To answer someone above, I certainly didn't expect him to fight with McLaren. I expected a car that wouldn't degrade the tyres and would be 2.3 tenths a lap slower than the leading group. Instead what I have seen so far is a car that degrades the tyres and that is 0.5+ seconds per lap slower
If anyone remembers my posts, I expected the car to be a backmarker and have no expectations. Creativity and car dynamics have been severely lacking in this team for a while.

The silver lining is that Newey will have a ton of windtunnel time the second half of this year.

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Anyone else concerned about the wind tunnel not being operational until at least mid season? This makes me worry about 2026 more than anything.

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Sherrinford wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 18:51
TyreSlip wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 18:38
Does anyone have a link to a table of race pace laps between Stroll and other cars?
Better you don't see them, otherwise you'll get depressed
To answer someone above, I certainly didn't expect him to fight with McLaren. I expected a car that wouldn't degrade the tyres and would be 2.3 tenths a lap slower than the leading group. Instead what I have seen so far is a car that degrades the tyres and that is 0.5+ seconds per lap slower
Man stop lying!
Alonso long run started with c3 6 laps old tyre he boxed when the tyres was 16 laps old:
1:36.5
1:35.8
1:36.0
1:36.5
1:35.8
1:36.180
1:35.9
1:36.2
1:35.5 box.

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Stroll last long run

1:36.314
1:36.378
1:36.074
1:36.097
1:36.017
1:35.746
1:35.728
1:35.623
"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication & competence."

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Stroll's long run is very similar to Bortoleto's long runs at Sauber (both with the same track conditions) I think this is not a good sign.

TyreSlip
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GoranF1 wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:14
Stroll last long run

1:36.314
1:36.378
1:36.074
1:36.097
1:36.017
1:35.746
1:35.728
1:35.623
The McLaren on a full tank was faster than this. Ouch.

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We were setting slow times in testing last year and started the season 4th quickest in qualy trim and 5th in race trim. Even after tomorrow we can’t say much.

Just gonna have to wait until Melbourne to see the true pecking order

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TyreSlip wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:08
Anyone else concerned about the wind tunnel not being operational until at least mid season? This makes me worry about 2026 more than anything.
Yeah, honestly thats more concerning than anything in testing. I think they found some problems in commissioning phase which could be a unknown amount of delay. Along with some uncertainty over Honda, its looking like 2026 could also be a waiting year. Alonso's contract runs out after next year.

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GoranF1 wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:14
Stroll last long run

1:36.314
1:36.378
1:36.074
1:36.097
1:36.017
1:35.746
1:35.728
1:35.623
is this in reverse order?

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peewon wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:42
GoranF1 wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:14
Stroll last long run

1:36.314
1:36.378
1:36.074
1:36.097
1:36.017
1:35.746
1:35.728
1:35.623
is this in reverse order?
https://x.com/ElReyGuiri/status/1895144 ... teFIQ&s=19
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Regardless of the track time, I really hope they can clock in more and more laps tomorrow. We did only 190 laps in two days. The

More laps = data to analyse and improve

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Has anybody else seen this on Motorsport's live commenting? I thought it's interesting.
One thing to keep an eye on in terms of Aston news concerns Enrico Cardile - the former Ferrari technical director who was announced as joining Aston last July. Cowell utterly refused to answer multiple questions regarding a specific start date for the Italian, when he had the option of at least being vague or explaining Cardile’s gardening leave terms.

This could be nothing, but the fact Cowell didn’t once use Cardile’s name when he had the 248 2024 starters ready, speaks volumes…

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Nikosar wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 20:33
Regardless of the track time, I really hope they can clock in more and more laps tomorrow. We did only 190 laps in two days. The

More laps = data to analyse and improve
You have to compare telemetry between Aston and Mclaren and not just look at lap times!

"Aston Martin plays the confusion card
In general, the first days of testing are characterized by an obvious prudence. In the case of Aston Martin, the evidence indicates that the British team has chosen not to seek the maximum performance from its car. In this case, the comparative telemetry carried out on Oscar Piastri’s and McLaren’s has shown that the Aston Martin AMR25 has been running at a lower power than it can actually deliver.

Sky Sports has confirmed that in corners the Aston Martin is on a par with Ferrari and McLaren, which is a significant improvement on last season. This reinforces the theory that the Silverstone team could spring a surprise as soon as the season starts.

One of the most surprising details of the telemetry was the difference in top speed on the straights. In comparison with other cars, Fernando Alonso’s Aston Martin had turned with a lower gear, that is to say, saving that revolution, which indicates a way of hiding its potential. Carlos Miquel, a journalist from COPE, said that he had been told by team sources: “they haven’t shown everything” and that “we are going to be much higher up”.

Telemetry doesn’t lie
The test data has shown an obvious reality: Aston Martin has not lost ground to its main direct competitors. In corners, the performance of the AMR25 is very similar to that of Ferrari and McLaren, something that seems to show that the team is improving in one of its weakest areas of 2024.

Although the times in the verifications are not always a true reflection of the competitive reality, a review of the telemetry shows that the car Alonso was driving has room for improvement, which, together with the alternative that Aston Martin has of having limited its performance so as not to reveal its true capacity, as this is a typical practice in Formula 1, suggests that there may be potential to be discovered.

Alonso’s optimism and the AMR25
Fernando Alonso is well aware of his car’s capabilities, which has allowed him to state that the team has a well-defined roadmap. “We aim for perfection every weekend. If that’s enough to fight at the top, it will be even better,” said the Spanish driver in a statement reported by GPBlog. The Spaniard is absolutely confident that the AMR25 can progress during the next test sessions and the first races of the season. The driver’s experience and his ability to extract performance levels will be decisive for Aston Martin to be able to fight with the best."