2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[SSJ4]

Everybody struggling with tyre deg today

[Alo_Fan]

The deg on Alonso's current run is crazy big.

[Sherrinford]

I was referring to the fact that he said that we are behind the big 4 and between Alpine Williams, who will do better on some tracks and who on others, that's what I read on x. Also on x I read that Cowell said that Newey will perhaps intervene on 2025. His presence will be important in my opinion already from Melbourne to find the right window and exploit what the car has.

Newey has his focus in 2026, naturally, but, its obvious for me, he will help this year, probably in the last major package for this year, maybe around Hungary.Its make zero sense u have a Genius in your staff and u cant explore a few brilliant ideas, again. focus? 2026, but hes not die if help a little this year.

I'm not convinced he can help much in a situation where you have a set of defined constraints due to the new car's conformation and you are simply trying to add performance. He says himself he's not got all the ideas and he can't do the work of 10 aero guys. Newey's key expertise IMO is in understanding the crucial areas in regulations and setting the design direction. The regulations are more than understood

I don't think so at all. Newey has been instrumental in the development and performance of every team he has been to, starting with McLaren in 98 which became a title car and Williams in suddenly no. Redbull same story and also Marko's recent statements where he says they struggled after Newey's farewell. The greatest engineer in history cannot limit himself to understand only the regulations

[-wkst-]

Newey has his focus in 2026, naturally, but, its obvious for me, he will help this year, probably in the last major package for this year, maybe around Hungary.Its make zero sense u have a Genius in your staff and u cant explore a few brilliant ideas, again. focus? 2026, but hes not die if help a little this year.

I'm not convinced he can help much in a situation where you have a set of defined constraints due to the new car's conformation and you are simply trying to add performance. He says himself he's not got all the ideas and he can't do the work of 10 aero guys. Newey's key expertise IMO is in understanding the crucial areas in regulations and setting the design direction. The regulations are more than understood

I don't think so at all. Newey has been instrumental in the development and performance of every team he has been to, starting with McLaren in 98 which became a title car and Williams in suddenly no. Redbull same story and also Marko's recent statements where he says they struggled after Newey's farewell. The greatest engineer in history cannot limit himself to understand only the regulations

And you can compare 1998 to 2025, with all the digital progress? Already at RBR he needed time to build his team.

Newey WILL BE a great asset, but the expectations of a lot of guys are somewhere between unrealistic and naive.

[KimiRai]

According to carlosmiquel chronic understeer and high tyre wear. Yep I'm out, see you in a few weeks.

[Sherrinford]

Strange, I would never have expected that. Guys, you can see everything from the tests, if he can't do more than two laps without increasing the times, it means he's eating the tires

[SchuMassa]

Mediocre pace, piss poor tyre deg. Huge disappointment

[Sherrinford]

I'm not convinced he can help much in a situation where you have a set of defined constraints due to the new car's conformation and you are simply trying to add performance. He says himself he's not got all the ideas and he can't do the work of 10 aero guys. Newey's key expertise IMO is in understanding the crucial areas in regulations and setting the design direction. The regulations are more than understood

I don't think so at all. Newey has been instrumental in the development and performance of every team he has been to, starting with McLaren in 98 which became a title car and Williams in suddenly no. Redbull same story and also Marko's recent statements where he says they struggled after Newey's farewell. The greatest engineer in history cannot limit himself to understand only the regulations

And you can compare 1998 to 2025, with all the digital progress? Already at RBR he needed time to build his team.

Newey WILL BE a great asset, but the expectations of a lot of guys are somewhere between unrealistic and naive.

Did he need time? In 2009 Redbull already had a title-winning car. Redbull dominated from 2010 to 2013, then left F1 because he didn't like the rules As soon as he re-dedicated himself, he made history again with Redbull and without him Redbull struggled last year. In your opinion, why is Alonso, Hamilton, everyone talking about him? He is the best engineer in the history of F1

[-wkst-]

And when he joined RBR? In 2009? No, he started working their in February 2006.

He is the best engineer of all time and I guess he will have an impact at least for set-up work for the 2025 car. But it's not the case that he walks through the door at Monday in Silverstone and says, "do this, do that, something here, something there", and they are suddenly winners. That's not how it works and certainly not in modern F1.

[Sherrinford]

And when he joined RBR? In 2009? No, he started working their in February 2006.

He is the best engineer of all time and I guess he will have an impact at least for set-up work for the 2025 car. But it's not the case that he walks through the door at Monday in Silverstone and says, "do this, do that, something here, something there", and they are suddenly winners. That's not how it works and certainly not in modern F1.

The first car he worked on was the 2007 Red Bull, not the 2006 one. But in reality he simply waited for the regulation change that happened in 2009 and made history with a team that simply could never win. It's like when you have CR7, Messi in the team, you don't have the certainty of winning, but you are sure that they will make a huge difference. You can't just say that Newey sets the rules and that's it, that's not credible and certainly not true.

[TyreSlip]

Newey had to spend the first few years at Red Bull dismissing the personnel who were undermining everything he was trying to do. The team still had the mindset of the old "Jaguar" team. One can hope that Cowell is speedrunning this process at Aston Martin so Newey can spend most of his energy on the '26 car.

[Sherrinford]

I ask the engineers for an opinion, but without changing the mechanics of the vehicle and only the aerodynamics, can the tire management be improved? Because in my opinion guys can also run without sidepods, this car has a purely mechanical problem

[collindsilva]

There seems to be some fundamental problem, maybe the suspension. If the pace and tyre deg is true as observed, it is better to invest on spec B or bring reliable updates. we need a serious morale booster going into next season...

[JPower]

There seems to be some fundamental problem, maybe the suspension. If the pace and tyre deg is true as observed, it is better to invest on spec B or bring reliable updates. we need a serious morale booster going into next season...

Spending money and development time on a "Spec B" would likely take away from Newey's efforts to develop the 2026 car.

[TyreSlip]

There seems to be some fundamental problem, maybe the suspension. If the pace and tyre deg is true as observed, it is better to invest on spec B or bring reliable updates. we need a serious morale booster going into next season...

Spending money and development time on a "Spec B" would likely take away from Newey's efforts to develop the 2026 car.

Too much of the budget cap too. The team is stuck with this car. Buckle up for a long season.