Flexiwings 2025

[haza]

None of this matters until Melbourne regardless of any flexi wings that may or may not have been used In testing if teams are found to be taking the piss so to speak with wing flex the fia will deal with it.
Pierre wache’s comments about McLaren and Ferrari potentially using mini drs is nothing new teams do this year after year as far as I could tell every time the Ferrari or McLaren rear facing onboard came on there wings seem to act normal there was no sight of any twisting or opening a gap Mercedes was the only one to catch my eye but again it’s testing an australias a whole different debate

[organic]

In addition to the new stricter tests outlined in TD018, the FIA has reportedly recently informed teams there will be additional methods to prevent any circumventing of the rules

Essentially new rearwards facing cameras to monitor specifically the flex both of rear wing and also beamwing

https://autoracer.it/it/esclusiva-ali-f ... tralia-fia

the FIA's technical office has sent the teams an official request for new measures for the visual control of the rear wings starting from Australia , to monitor the deformation of the rear wings with their own instruments. The positioning of the cameras and related visual references to be affixed (stickers) is reportedly being deliberated, as already happened last year for some races starting from the Belgian GP.

Although the time available to intervene is short - between decisions to be made, proposed, validated and made official - it is the FIA's prerogative to put the new provision on monitoring flexures into practice already in Australia. Cameras on the cars, therefore additional to those already present, which have the specific task of aiming at the rear wing and verifying any flexure movement to which they may be subject. The aim is clearly to verify whether the mini-DRS, banned after Baku and subsequently ratified as 'illegal' also in the regulations , is still present on some cars, managing to somehow circumvent the static checks that are implemented.

[the EDGE]

My understanding is that cameras will be installed to monitor what is going on, and that may lead to additional action in the future, but for now, wings that pass the current tests are to be deemed legal

The most that will happen is they’ll be told to strengthen for future races, like McLaren were last year

[FW17]

None of this matters until Melbourne regardless of any flexi wings that may or may not have been used In testing if teams are found to be taking the piss so to speak with wing flex the fia will deal with it.
Pierre wache’s comments about McLaren and Ferrari potentially using mini drs is nothing new teams do this year after year as far as I could tell every time the Ferrari or McLaren rear facing onboard came on there wings seem to act normal there was no sight of any twisting or opening a gap Mercedes was the only one to catch my eye but again it’s testing an australias a whole different debate

Red Bull are so magnanimous, that they will not protest the teams.

[Slitch-nl]

Fp1 will reveal many things and then what? Like MCLaren they will get a bonus of a ton of races to fix their cheating?

I take issue with these sort of accusations. If the FIA allows it and passes all the tests then it’s legal. It’s what F1 is all about. Pushing the boundaries. Everyone in the off season has done their own take on the rules and work accordingly. F1 should be about invention and pushing the limits. Otherwise it’s just another stock formula

McLaren passed all the tests last year and yet we all saw what is happening and yet how many races passed and points gained from MCLaren? Now in the MB video we see a huge deform and lowering down of the whole rear wing design and we don't know who else has that since no other video emerged yet. Is that nominal movement according to the spirit of the rules? If not, how much time FIA will give this bonus to the team/teams that do this till they ban it?
This is what i am talking about. FIA must be swift and clear, nothing can deform/move if we reach fp1 of the 1st race or else we will have another fiasco with politics and team/teams to be benefited of this.

I fully agree. Kudos to the teams that find loopholes, but we've had so much clarifications and additions to the rules about flex that it shouldnt be possible anymore.
But last year was a obvious attempt to influence the championship. The fact that the fastest car, who was protested by other teams, didnt have any dots on the rear wing, proves the FIA influences these races (not even mentioning Brazil Q, sprint and false race start).
Now you see these blatant violations because they know FIA willfully turns a blind eye to create an exiting F1 champion(ship).

[the EDGE]

I take issue with these sort of accusations. If the FIA allows it and passes all the tests then it’s legal. It’s what F1 is all about. Pushing the boundaries. Everyone in the off season has done their own take on the rules and work accordingly. F1 should be about invention and pushing the limits. Otherwise it’s just another stock formula

McLaren passed all the tests last year and yet we all saw what is happening and yet how many races passed and points gained from MCLaren? Now in the MB video we see a huge deform and lowering down of the whole rear wing design and we don't know who else has that since no other video emerged yet. Is that nominal movement according to the spirit of the rules? If not, how much time FIA will give this bonus to the team/teams that do this till they ban it?
This is what i am talking about. FIA must be swift and clear, nothing can deform/move if we reach fp1 of the 1st race or else we will have another fiasco with politics and team/teams to be benefited of this.

I fully agree. Kudos to the teams that find loopholes, but we've had so much clarifications and additions to the rules about flex that it shouldnt be possible anymore.
But last year was a obvious attempt to influence the championship. The fact that the fastest car, who was protested by other teams, didnt have any dots on the rear wing, proves the FIA influences these races (not even mentioning Brazil Q, sprint and false race start).
Now you see these blatant violations because they know FIA willfully turns a blind eye to create an exiting F1 champion(ship).

You’re given a set of rules, you follow them. It’s that simple

Wings are allowed to move and flex, and there are tests in place to limit how much this movement and flex can be

If you pass the tests then you have followed the rules. If the FIA have missed something, they are within their right to change the tests, or the wording of the rules. It is only fair then that a set time is given for teams to then comply with the new wording or the new test

If a team has found a solution and benefits from that, then that’s just tough luck for the other teams, they should have thought of that too

That is F1, always has been and always will be

[Slitch-nl]

I agree that reading between the lines is a subsport of f1. Howeverarticle 3.15.16 specifically requires "contrasting markers" to be applied to the rear wing to allow its behavior to be "monitored using the onboard cameras." This suggests visual monitoring of component flexing during actual race conditions. Article 3.15.1 states that the FIA reserves the right to introduce additional load/deflection tests if components "appear to be" or are "suspected of" moving while the car is in motion - implying some level of visual observation drives the testing process

[SonicF1]

I don’t think this rule amendment is drastic enough to cause a great deal of issues for larger teams. Surely they’ve manufactured and tested varying levels of wings flexibility.
They have 5 or 8 various wings to select from their inventory….no big deal!! Front wing margin of flexibility from current spec wing will be negligible.