2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[-wkst-]

The first half of the stint was quite ok for ALO, mediums and hards, was always in the train, but in the 2nd half of the stint tyre deg kills them - like last year. STR wasn’t that bad on the hards too, they extended and extended for the hope of a SC (rightly so - only chance for points), it didn’t come and in the last laps on the hards he was just sliding around and the race over.

[RedNEO]

Was gonna say we're gonna need an accident to get in the points.

We almost had one but luckily we didn’t. Bortoleto almost took Alonso out. Phew we could get lucky later if there’s a big pile up.

Most drivers would have crashed there, but Alonso's situational awareness is top notch.

He was inch perfect and the reward was only 11th. Deserves so much more. Floor update better deliver

[RedNEO]

Considering the information we're hearing about AMR25 in the AM F1 WT and the rumors of having an Imola upgrade, that is still 1 month away .....That means the upgrade will be based on the AM F1 WT.

Praying for a transformative update

[diffuser]

Considering the information we're hearing about AMR25 in the AM F1 WT and the rumors of having an Imola upgrade, that is still 1 month away .....That means the upgrade will be based on the AM F1 WT.

Praying for a transformative update

Hallelujah!

[Rikrikrik]

Considering the information we're hearing about AMR25 in the AM F1 WT and the rumors of having an Imola upgrade, that is still 1 month away .....That means the upgrade will be based on the AM F1 WT.

Praying for a transformative update

Hallelujah!

That upgrade NEEDS make the car better, doesnt matter how much, but if these upgrades are another step back. I think 2026 will be another lab year.

[vas_04614]

If AMR and Merc WT numbers of AMR25 doesn't match they need to

• find which WT is wrong

• If it's AMR WT, then fix it and and re run AMR 25 current car and upgrades planned to make sure numbers match. Also restart 2026 car from scratch w.r.t WT testing

• If it's Merc WT, then scrap upgrades already planned and find issues again using AMR WT and design new upgrade. For 2026 car, they should be fine with the work done till now I guess

• Personally they should take time and may be plan only 1 upgrade for 25 car like for spain.

[Alo_Fan]

If AMR and Merc WT numbers of AMR25 doesn't match they need to

• find which WT is wrong

• If it's AMR WT, then fix it and and re run AMR 25 current car and upgrades planned to make sure numbers match. Also restart 2026 car from scratch w.r.t WT testing

• If it's Merc WT, then scrap upgrades already planned and find issues again using AMR WT and design new upgrade. For 2026 car, they should be fine with the work done till now I guess

• Personally they should take time and may be plan only 1 upgrade for 25 car like for spain.

I don't think it's that either tunnel is wrong, but the way our engineers were using the tunnels. We've already seen an article explaining that Newey was teaching them how to best use the tunnel etc. Alonso mentioned at the start of the season about how they found out a better way to use the tunnel too.

[Otromundo]

Seeing the amount of abrupt changes of direction ALO has to make to steer the car... it's a little scary. I think he's the driver who has to turn the steering wheel the most in corners.

I hope they find the magic key soon.

[vas_04614]

If AMR and Merc WT numbers of AMR25 doesn't match they need to

• find which WT is wrong

• If it's AMR WT, then fix it and and re run AMR 25 current car and upgrades planned to make sure numbers match. Also restart 2026 car from scratch w.r.t WT testing

• If it's Merc WT, then scrap upgrades already planned and find issues again using AMR WT and design new upgrade. For 2026 car, they should be fine with the work done till now I guess

• Personally they should take time and may be plan only 1 upgrade for 25 car like for spain.

I don't think it's that either tunnel is wrong, but the way our engineers were using the tunnels. We've already seen an article explaining that Newey was teaching them how to best use the tunnel etc. Alonso mentioned at the start of the season about how they found out a better way to use the tunnel too.

one doubt, if both tunnels are fine then shouldn't they get same numbers for AMR25 in AMR WT by following same processes/methods they used in Merc WT? if tunnels are different and it's not possible to use same processes/methods in both tunnels, then the only source of truth is actual car, so basically build an upgrade using new AMR WT and validate WT numbers with on track numbers

[Alo_Fan]

If AMR and Merc WT numbers of AMR25 doesn't match they need to

• find which WT is wrong

• If it's AMR WT, then fix it and and re run AMR 25 current car and upgrades planned to make sure numbers match. Also restart 2026 car from scratch w.r.t WT testing

• If it's Merc WT, then scrap upgrades already planned and find issues again using AMR WT and design new upgrade. For 2026 car, they should be fine with the work done till now I guess

• Personally they should take time and may be plan only 1 upgrade for 25 car like for spain.

I don't think it's that either tunnel is wrong, but the way our engineers were using the tunnels. We've already seen an article explaining that Newey was teaching them how to best use the tunnel etc. Alonso mentioned at the start of the season about how they found out a better way to use the tunnel too.

one doubt, if both tunnels are fine then shouldn't they get same numbers for AMR25 in AMR WT by following same processes/methods they used in Merc WT? if tunnels are different and it's not possible to use same processes/methods in both tunnels, then the only source of truth is actual car, so basically build an upgrade using new AMR WT and validate WT numbers with on track numbers

The AMR wind tunnel is definitely an upgrade, and should offer higher efficiency one would imagine. However, it's difficult to see the Merc wind tunnel isn't okay as Mercedes are doing fine with it, albeit they had some correlation issues with upgrades last season too.

[SSJ4]

DLR said nothing for miami, so another painful race. that chicane gonna be the stuff of nightmares

[Xyz22]

I don't think it's that either tunnel is wrong, but the way our engineers were using the tunnels. We've already seen an article explaining that Newey was teaching them how to best use the tunnel etc. Alonso mentioned at the start of the season about how they found out a better way to use the tunnel too.

one doubt, if both tunnels are fine then shouldn't they get same numbers for AMR25 in AMR WT by following same processes/methods they used in Merc WT? if tunnels are different and it's not possible to use same processes/methods in both tunnels, then the only source of truth is actual car, so basically build an upgrade using new AMR WT and validate WT numbers with on track numbers

The AMR wind tunnel is definitely an upgrade, and should offer higher efficiency one would imagine. However, it's difficult to see the Merc wind tunnel isn't okay as Mercedes are doing fine with it, albeit they had some correlation issues with upgrades last season too.

Having an in house wind tunnel is not only about being better (i.e. providing more accurate results) but also about logistics.
Also, once again, Newey has been in charge of wind tunnel operations since he started working on racing cars. We are talking about an expert in this field.

[TyreSlip]

DLR said nothing for miami, so another painful race. that chicane gonna be the stuff of nightmares

Alonso said after the race, "We have to get used to it. It's going to be very difficult to score points all season."

[Nikosar]

DLR said nothing for miami, so another painful race. that chicane gonna be the stuff of nightmares

Alonso said after the race, "We have to get used to it. It's going to be very difficult to score points all season."

This is not the first time he has said this, perhaps a hint that nothing major will come out of the factory during this season? or trying to put some pressure on the team

[zoroastar]

DLR said nothing for miami, so another painful race. that chicane gonna be the stuff of nightmares

Alonso said after the race, "We have to get used to it. It's going to be very difficult to score points all season."

This is not the first time he has said this, perhaps a hint that nothing major will come out of the factory during this season? or trying to put some pressure on the team

i mean, its sorta just common sense. even if we bring good upgrades, everyone else will bring upgrades too, and the likelihood that theyll be scoring easy points is a bridge too far unless the top teams start crashing into each other. on normal weekends only 3 points are available anyway. lets hope for more australias haha