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[SiLo]

Changing from push to pull is less of a change than people seem to think. The rest of the car is simply an evolution.

[Jdn1327]

Changing from push to pull is less of a change than people seem to think. The rest of the car is simply an evolution.

I understand that...but it can't be a coincidence that with the change to pull rod they now have plank wear issues and have to run the car higher...it just seemed like an unnecessary risk when the end of regulation set is approaching.

[SiLo]

Changing from push to pull is less of a change than people seem to think. The rest of the car is simply an evolution.

I understand that...but it can't be a coincidence that with the change to pull rod they now have plank wear issues and have to run the car higher...it just seemed like an unnecessary risk when the end of regulation set is approaching.

I think they might have just got it a bit wrong, it's still a change. The benefit is from the Aero platform.

[Space-heat]

I just finished watching AutoRacer's stream. It was mostly them debating, not so much them making statements but I wrote down the parts I found interesting anyway. They spent a lot of the time just discussing the Verstappen Piastri situation to the point where one of them said "guys, I think we should talk about Ferrari too."

• From what they know, Ferrari expected Hamilton to be much closer to Leclerc in pace by now. The team has worked extensively with Hamilton to find better setups but nothing has seemed to give him more confidence. The first few races they tried extreme setups with both drivers and found one for Leclerc that he greatly enjoys, but they haven't found the same thing for Hamilton yet - even though by now (across the five races and their FPs) they have tried almost every option. There is a belief among some (AR staff? Ferrari staff? unclear) that it's up to Hamilton now to meet the team halfway, there is not much the on-track team can do other than hope the next spec is better suited for him.
• As one would expect the team held many meetings at the start of the season when discussing development and what the drivers wanted. At that time the drivers agreed to the same behaviors and in the simulator everything seemed OK, however obviously when the car got on track they found that the balance wasn't similar at all. The drivers were very upset about this and concerned about how such a big error could be made even if these doubts weren't expressed in public. (This is old information they didn't talk about previously so the driver's feelings have probably calmed since.)
• Donadoni mentioned further adjustments to correct the ride height will come after Imola. They then argued about whether this means the team targeting this at Imola and then there are further upgrades expected to correct it even more, if the Imola package is targeted towards a different part of the car, or if no upgrades will come in Imola at all. Giuliana ended the argument by saying he isn't expecting a big package related to the floor at Imola due to the amount of upgrades being worked on along with their projected timelines, so take that how you will.

Thanks for the update. Not ideal that the ride height issue might wait until Spain (assuming Monaco most likely unneeded (kerbs), so they might as well take more time).

Vasseur did say during testing their was a aero body overhaul (engine cover, undercut, etc) that would come with the first package, this might be the Imola update, still hope it is the ride height fix.

[Space-heat]

Changing from push to pull is less of a change than people seem to think. The rest of the car is simply an evolution.

I understand that...but it can't be a coincidence that with the change to pull rod they now have plank wear issues and have to run the car higher...it just seemed like an unnecessary risk when the end of regulation set is approaching.

At the time when the change was rumored in the wind tunnel last year. Two things were mentioned:

1. The current concept had reached marginal gains. They saw better potential with pull front.
2. For the 26' reg, pull front was required.

[Jdn1327]

Changing from push to pull is less of a change than people seem to think. The rest of the car is simply an evolution.

I understand that...but it can't be a coincidence that with the change to pull rod they now have plank wear issues and have to run the car higher...it just seemed like an unnecessary risk when the end of regulation set is approaching.

At the time when the change was rumored in the wind tunnel last year. Two things were mentioned:

1. The current concept had reached marginal gains. They saw better potential with pull front.
2. For the 26' reg, pull front was required.

Ahhh okay...I understand. I had thought this was an isolated decision and not for 2026...thanks for clearing that up...

[Space-heat]

I understand that...but it can't be a coincidence that with the change to pull rod they now have plank wear issues and have to run the car higher...it just seemed like an unnecessary risk when the end of regulation set is approaching.

At the time when the change was rumored in the wind tunnel last year. Two things were mentioned:

1. The current concept had reached marginal gains. They saw better potential with pull front.
2. For the 26' reg, pull front was required.

Ahhh okay...I understand. I had thought this was an isolated decision and not for 2026...thanks for clearing that up...

To my memory, I would need to go back through the AutoRacer articles at the time when the switch was rumored to confirm the 26' regulation justification. Someone else might correct me on it.

[ScuderiaLeo]

They never confirmed the switch to pull rod as being the cause of all this. They only mentioned the rear suspension and potentially the gearbox as being the underlying problem. Why those got messed up compared to the SF-24 hasn't been said at all as far as I'm aware.

Thanks for the update. Not ideal that the ride height issue might wait until Spain (assuming Monaco most likely unneeded (kerbs), so they might as well take more time).

Vasseur did say during testing their was a aero body overhaul (engine cover, undercut, etc) that would come with the first package, this might be the Imola update, still hope it is the ride height fix.

To provide a bit more context, Donadoni and Giuliana have different Ferrari sources so this is why they're often debating. Donadoni said he doesn't see a solution for the ride height at all until after Imola, instead probably around Spain. Giuliana said they will probably bring something to Imola, it just won't be "big" as the things the team wants to change are large and will realistically take longer than the time left until Imola.

But this doesn't mean Ferrari can't bring large changes to Imola, it'd just be surprising because they would need to be more confident than they've been so far in their findings (in order to move through the development process more swiftly.) Both what AR knows and based on Leclerc's words this hasn't been the case so far but things could still change over the next month.

I hope this makes sense.

[deadhead]

They made a relatively large mistake during development it seems and now they are scrambling to fix it while the competition piles on points. It’s the nature of the sport I guess. Hopefully they can get on par with the McLaren but something tells me they will bring a few upgrades of their own as well so this is going to be very difficult.

HAM struggling as much is also puzzling and maybe the less flexible wings from Barcelona onwards will help somehow.

[Fakepivot]

about Hamilton, him defending against Lando helped Charles later on, while we bad talk how Hamilton is washed blablabla, if it was Sainz he would have rolled red carpet for Lando to overtake him. just saying. I really appreciated Hamilton playing team game at list.

[JPower]

about Hamilton, him defending against Lando helped Charles later on, while we bad talk how Hamilton is washed blablabla, if it was Sainz he would have rolled red carpet for Lando to overtake him. just saying. I really appreciated Hamilton playing team game at list.

Pretty sure I remember Sainz holding off a charging Perez at Austria in 2023 which helped Leclerc keep his 2nd place finish. Maybe its my imagination.

[Farnborough]

about Hamilton, him defending against Lando helped Charles later on, while we bad talk how Hamilton is washed blablabla, if it was Sainz he would have rolled red carpet for Lando to overtake him. just saying. I really appreciated Hamilton playing team game at list.

While I dont offer allegiance toward any driver mentioned, that's a complete slight of Carlos Sainz, fabricated within your mind and shouldn't be offered as part of discussion on the thread. What an absolute fantasy mascarading as some sort of fact.

There's absolutely no tangible evidence to support such opinion and degrades the forum by being offered.

[ScuderiaLeo]

I don't think Hamilton defended against Norris only for Leclerc... but rather because he's a smart racer and knew he could do it?

Some drivers, even when it's considered pointless and the pass is inevitable, will still defend against a quicker car. Hamilton and Leclerc do this often.

Sainz and Leclerc's teamwork was perfectly fine aside from a few moments - which every pair of teammates have had. But them getting along isn't fun for the media, so of course everything has to be blown out of proportion.

[venkyhere]

about Hamilton, him defending against Lando helped Charles later on, while we bad talk how Hamilton is washed blablabla, if it was Sainz he would have rolled red carpet for Lando to overtake him. just saying. I really appreciated Hamilton playing team game at list.

ohh... that's clutching at straws by a fan.

Hamilton holding off Norris for two back to back 'overtake' laps, is because it took the intelligence of Norris to figure out that T27 is not the place to actually overtake, but just to set up close enough behind the car ahead, for a regulation DRS overtake through the pit straight, and then pull away from a DRS gap through sector1 and sector2.
It was more 'lack of cleverness' by the overtaking driver, rather than 'defensive skill' by the overtaken driver.

[bananapeel23]

Changing from push to pull is less of a change than people seem to think. The rest of the car is simply an evolution.

I understand that...but it can't be a coincidence that with the change to pull rod they now have plank wear issues and have to run the car higher...it just seemed like an unnecessary risk when the end of regulation set is approaching.

Hy understanding is that the plank wear was caused by Ferrari moving the cockpit further back. That decision had packaging implications for the gearbox and rear suspension which changed the setup window and forced Ferrari to pick either excessive plank wear and DQs or to raise the ride height and lose pace.