Race in U.S.

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lebesset wrote:well, amongst the grade 1 circuits is one that hasn't been used as a GP circuit for 20 years to the best of my knowledge , called paul ricard

wonder who owns that :wink:
Although it's licence would appear to have expired.

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lebesset wrote:...why not a new venue ? if places like turkey , singapore et al can find the money , why not the usa ?
This is an EXCELLENT point. We (the USA) are the world's economic leader (still hanging on), and yet we can't afford what Turkey, Singapore, etc can. If only Obama had the slightest interest in F1, it would be done in a heartbeat, with money that wouldn't be noticed in one of his stimulus/bailout packages. I'll stop there before I get any more political.

I live near Laguna Seca and have driven it a lot. Its too small for F1 in every way. Infineon/Sears Point would be much better, but it also would need big changes.

IMO Las Vegas is made for F1. In that city they've build minature versions of Paris, New York, ancient pyramids, etc. A night race through downtown Las Vegas could be great. I say night because its really hot there, LV does its best work at night, and because rather than bother people, the noise would just add to the excitement. In the day time, F1 noise would REALLY bother the hung over folks of LV. After the racing ended, Vegas would win F1's heart by hosting after parties that would set the standard.

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nice idea dp35 ,I admit it passed my mind , but the reason I dismissed it was ...singapore got there first

much as I like the night race in the city idea , more than one would debase the currency
to the optimist a glass is half full ; to the pessimist a glass is half empty ; to the F1 engineer the glass is twice as big as it needs to be

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I was at Barber over the weekend and noted that the corkscrew has been reconfigured in preparation for the Indy race next year. I wonder if this (and possible other changes) would upgrade it to a Cat 1.

BTW... the museum is unbelievable. Not only bikes but lots of cars too. It seems Mr. Barber has a love of Loutus too...

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If LV happens (although I want something in NYC) it will never be a night race. Bernie wants the european markets to watch the race, so I would assume either a 1pm or 2pm start.

And, if LV is talked about, why not Atlantic City, since we're talking about just going on a street circuit. AC is close to NYC, Philly and I'm sure Boston and DC people would come as well.

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What about Miller Motorsports Park.

Huge track long front strait in the middle of nowhere and only 45min from my place

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dp35 wrote:
lebesset wrote:...why not a new venue ? if places like turkey , singapore et al can find the money , why not the usa ?
This is an EXCELLENT point. We (the USA) are the world's economic leader (still hanging on), and yet we can't afford what Turkey, Singapore, etc can.
Well, dp, perhaps US has become the leader because its citizens try to make good bussiness deals, and after Indy F1 debacle, it takes balls of steel to take that kind of risk. People has to forget that incident before the first US GP becomes less of a risky deal.

My best guess, when Bill France and Ecclestone had a meeting (last year?) was that the deal was not done because France raised that very issue and then he asked for a special price. If that was the case, I bet that Ecclestone, having to deal with investors in many countries asking for a GP, did not give France a chance, to keep those other investors "in line".
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It would be really cool but not probable to have a street race at my hometime it would be shorter than Monocco but a guy can dream :D

gettting back to reality, what about the Lowe's Motor Speedway's Road course in Charlotte, NC or a street race in downtown Manhattan that would be cool.
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To be honest the Daytona road course would be amazing to watch. I want to see the cars run the banking

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Oh, come on, reality is overstated. Yeah, I would like to watch another F1 oval race before I die, but in Talladega. If a stock can make 360... how much would make a McLaren or a Ferrari?
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in KPH Ciro? I know they went 230 MPH in 2004 without restrictor plates so they might go 350+ MPH if they do that and i think to be called world champion you will have to succeed in both Road courses and Ovals

Another track Bristol Motor Speedway(TN)/North Wilkensboro(NC) that would be fun, 200MPH at Bristol
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Ciro Pabón wrote:Oh, come on, reality is overstated. Yeah, I would like to watch another F1 oval race before I die, but in Talladega. If a stock can make 360... how much would make a McLaren or a Ferrari?
the road course at the beach includes 3/4 of the banking. F1 used to run the Indy 500 to bad the rules wont allow that any more.

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Ciro Pabón wrote:
dp35 wrote:
lebesset wrote:...why not a new venue ? if places like turkey , singapore et al can find the money , why not the usa ?
This is an EXCELLENT point. We (the USA) are the world's economic leader (still hanging on), and yet we can't afford what Turkey, Singapore, etc can.
Well, dp, perhaps US has become the leader because its citizens try to make good bussiness deals, and after Indy F1 debacle, it takes balls of steel to take that kind of risk. People has to forget that incident before the first US GP becomes less of a risky deal.

My best guess, when Bill France and Ecclestone had a meeting (last year?) was that the deal was not done because France raised that very issue and then he asked for a special price. If that was the case, I bet that Ecclestone, having to deal with investors in many countries asking for a GP, did not give France a chance, to keep those other investors "in line".
[...] If FOTA was truly interested in having a USGP any one of them, Ferrari, Merc, BMW, Honda, Toyota, or Nissan/ING(Renault) or even LG could easily put up the race sponsorship money like SAP did in the early Indy USGP races, but they dont so it must really must not be worth it.

And hopefully the IRL and F1 accept the World engine concept and we can see some of the F1 teams at the Indy 500.
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Ciro it's like the black helicopters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_helicopter I've read a few snippets about a 'plan' for F1/F2 and the WRC (maybe the Indy Racing League) to share an engine architecture ... so they call it the World Engine.
http://paultan.org/2009/04/07/standardi ... 1-and-wrc/
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/world ... 10243.html
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/turbo ... -5578.html
Mostly something Max Mosley likes to talk about, that's why it gets that creepy, world domination, conspiracy taint attached to it. Think about it. It is creepy.

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Ciro Pabón wrote:Oh, c'mon, Islam, where is your logic? If that were true and you were able to steal land and resources from natives and to enslaven the population, would you call that a bad business deal?

What's the World Engine concept?
I base my business dealings on more than just simple profit and loss, I happen to believe that I will ultimately be accountable for all my actions in both this life and the next, so yes, completing a business deal that would destroy my soul would be very bad, regardless of the profit margin.

world engine thread

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