USF1 -- F1's All-American Challenger

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Giblet
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I have been saying this about once every 5 pages since it started. It's one thing to doubt in the way Fil is doubting, with information from suppliers who are concerned. I've said it before, there is very little useful information on this site aobut USF1, and information from other resources is far more in depth and realistic.

It's another thing to LOL your way through their efforts and make videos of bunnies pretending to be USF1.

It's all very childish and boorish.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

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Giblet wrote:As usual, u assume too much seg, and are comparing apples and Formula 1 teams.
Hmmmmm, well the principles are still the same (only the penalties for failure differ)..........and if you don't think it's actually an accurate comparison........then why make it in the first place? :roll:
I was merely jumping in with both feet, I made no promises to the media, and have no sponsors to answer to. My goal was a realistic goal and I in fact accomplished that goal.
The principles are still very much the same and it still doesn't get away from the fact that you quickly found out that your three month assessment was based on nothing concrete because you didn't think ahead. You might have got away with it in a small-scale project but USF1 won't based on the evidence of how they've gone about things over the last few months.

We'll see. They might turn up and surprise us all and that would be nice (we've lost enough teams already), but there is enough experience around here both inside F1 and outside of such projects to observe that all is not well. Additionally, if you knew anything about Peter Windsor and his place in the racing world you would see why the USF1 spoof YoutTube videos have appeared.

Giblet
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Surgically extract your cranium from you colon please. Peeking out to get your bearings every once in a while is simply not enough.

My three month assessment was perfectly accurate and based on all the information from the Apple developer web site. I completed my project under budget, and early. Snap.

I had no penalties for failure. I am smart enough to not hinge my whole life on one project, unlike you who hinges entire arguments on one point. I took a learning vacation.

Seg, I was really hoping for something new this time, but you are just a worthless troll ,and have contributed nothing to this site so far, except arguing with me.

The only similarity between my project and USF1 is that they are both projects, anything you want to read in to that is your own insanity talking. The biggest difference is that mine was a rousing success, and USF1 is still 'managing' their project, poorly or not.

Step back, try to understand what it is that makes you argue constantly with me, on every point.

My only point (that you miss again and again and again....) is that goals need to change over the life of the project.

They say the definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over but expecting different results.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

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With my humble twenty-some years of project-management xperience, I think it's rather obvious that USF1 have played things by ear from day one, just like when my ten-year old kid opened his new Sony Ericsson "Aino" on Xmas Eve?
"I spent most of my money on wine and women...I wasted the rest"

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Windsor promised too much in the media. Whatever his reasons are for not hiring a real manager for the team is baffling, leading to his waffling.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

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Crikeys more posts are we at page 100 yet - for gods sake nothing is or has been forthcoming from USF1 get a grip guys - Im sure you'd be laying everything that your doing with your brand new F1 effort out to public view #-o :lol: I do know however it is all being documented on film for release later or so Im told :wink:
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OK, new information from reasonable sources:

Lopez expects a team announcement around the 25th. And expects to be testing in Valencia (1st feb.) http://mundod.lavoz.com.ar/?q=content/u ... E2%80%9D-0
Google translation.
On this point, Lopez said: "I estimate that around 25 I will travel to North Carolina to be on the official team presentation in Charlotte and, if necessary, I will make a preliminary check on the car, before official tests February in Valencia. "
Not sure how much to read into this next bit (Fairly minor plumbing parts.), but here's a forum post from one of their partners. Who says he first made contact with the team in December, and the parts are yet to be delivered.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche- ... -usf1.html
Murray: "And there are flames coming from the back of Prost's car as he enters the swimming pool."
James: "Well, that should put them out then."

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Giblet and segedunum, perhaps you two could continue your spat through PMs?
Enzo Ferrari was a great man. But he was not a good man. -- Phil Hill

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Intersting cooper-climax, quite an innovative way of selecting partners for your F1 team, no?
"I spent most of my money on wine and women...I wasted the rest"

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xpensive wrote:Intersting cooper-climax, quite an innovative way of selecting partners for your F1 team, no?
They are water/oil quick disconnect couplings, like a Wiggins clamp (http://www.titanmotorsports.com/adwituco.html).

Probably fewer than 8 on the car, and these are very likely dimensionally compatible with the Wiggins standard flanges anyway. It's not like they wandered into the PRI show and came out with a gearbox supplier.

Christ, why am I even replying to you?

marcush.
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xpensive wrote:Intersting cooper-climax, quite an innovative way of selecting partners for your F1 team, no?
quite honestly speeaking ,I did exactly the same a decade ago when visiting the PRI
show (then in Indianaplois)selecting one of the suppliers in one of those boothes for me supplying cam followers....which won me two championships ,although admidetly
not F1 .Many thanks to Joe Schubeck who did as promised back then.
Nothing wrong with that approach in my view.

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spacepig wrote:
xpensive wrote:Intersting cooper-climax, quite an innovative way of selecting partners for your F1 team, no?
They are water/oil quick disconnect couplings, like a Wiggins clamp (http://www.titanmotorsports.com/adwituco.html).

Probably fewer than 8 on the car, and these are very likely dimensionally compatible with the Wiggins standard flanges anyway. It's not like they wandered into the PRI show and came out with a gearbox supplier.

Christ, why am I even replying to you?
I quite agree, not exactly fundamental components, and that's what trade shows are for. I was more interested in the timing.
The gearbox supplier was chosen in November http://www.emcogears.com/index.cfm?temp ... ws_id=4103
Murray: "And there are flames coming from the back of Prost's car as he enters the swimming pool."
James: "Well, that should put them out then."

marcush.
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you might ask some racers about the significance of fastners ,couplings and such in terms of running a racing operation that is actually winning championships.
The term :failed hoseclamp will certainly ring a lot of bells also in Pro motorsports of today.
The words you chose now made things even worse I have to state.

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cooper-climax wrote: I quite agree, not exactly fundamental components, and that's what trade shows are for. I was more interested in the timing.
The gearbox supplier was chosen in November http://www.emcogears.com/index.cfm?temp ... ws_id=4103
The gearbox supplier was announced in November.

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If we are going to be picky, the word used is "selected" and although "this Week" usually means the current week, The 2nd was a Monday. So the "selection" might have been made as early as the 26th of October.
Murray: "And there are flames coming from the back of Prost's car as he enters the swimming pool."
James: "Well, that should put them out then."