CD ADAPCO - star ccm++

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asdf10101
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CD ADAPCO - star ccm++

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hi.. ive google the problem and have tried changing the virtual memory and stuff but it doesnt work.. so i want to ask on here maybe some of you can help me out..

heres the error

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* this is due to insufficient virtual memory

i have 44 gb free on c.. and ive put no paging for c and d while for e ive made max paging file size.. the difference is.. by default.. it stuck in early volume meshing but after changing the setting of paging file.. it finish volume meshing but still the error came out

axle
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Is it a system managed pagefile or a set one?
- Axle

asdf10101
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axle wrote:Is it a system managed pagefile or a set one?
ive tried all..

- no paging for all drives..
- system managed drives..
- custom mean c and d no paging.. and e is set at max.. and some other random changes.. but still not working

asdf10101
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hi.. ive found the solution eventhough ive changed nothing but installed the improve memory ultimate.. =D>

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Are you sure you made no changes?

Looking at the log window in your snapshots shows:
  • 1st case 797.70 MB
  • 2nd case 539.67 MB
Based on these memory diagnostics I'd question whether the memory improvement application helped - more likely you made an inadvertent change that resulted in your 2nd mesh being 33% smaller than your 1st mesh.

Just a thought...
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asdf10101
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sadly you are right.. i thought problem solved but ive tried another meshing and there was still an error.. any idea? please help me.. if i change to windows 7 with a larger RAM capacity (window xp 3.6 gb).. will i still face this problem?

BTW.. anyone can validate my drawing?
im doing final year project and i need to model a simplified f1 body to be used by 2 sets of front and rear wing.. 2008 and 2009 (but same body)
just want to make sure that what i made was correct ( the diffuser + area above skid block ).. all the dimension are according to the 2009 regulation

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Tonn
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Middle vertical fences should not sit lover then stepped plane. Otherwise seems ok.

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asdf10101 wrote:if i change to windows 7 with a larger RAM capacity (window xp 3.6 gb).. will i still face this problem?
I'm guessing that you are currently using Windows XP 32-bit, right?

I believe that the default maximum process size supported by 32-bit applications under Windows is 2GB. If you want to run a larger case then consider 64-bit Windows (XP, Vista, or 7) with the 64-bit version of the solver software. For more see:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library ... 85%29.aspx

If you are struggling to fit the mesh within your current machine, you are unlikely to be able to run the flow solver - it will need even more memory.

If you are relying on swap space to cover your process memory footprint that exceeds your RAM limit then you are likely to see extremely slow turnaround times - of the order of 10 times slower than using RAM alone.

I'd suggest that you try changing some of the default meshing parameters to produce a smaller element count - I'm not familiar with the meshing in CCM+, so I can't help you with how to do this. My approach would be to produce as small an element count as possible while still resolving the geometry and try running it in the solver to get a baseline for the case. Then increase the mesh resolution in areas of interest (e.g., wing leading edges, diffuser) and compare your new results with your baseline to ensure your extra resolution is improving your result. Continue increasing your mesh resolution until either the results don't change (unlikely) or you hit your maximum RAM limit.

Hope this helps.
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czt
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Unless you are solving in yaw, why not do a half car model to reduce your mesh size?

asdf10101
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@Tonn.. thanks

@syguy.. yes im using windows xp 32 bit.. thanks for the info.. i guess ill be using windows 7 and upgrade ram to 6gb.. hope it would be enough.. there is another option by using meshing in catia (surface and volumme meshing) and export it to star ccm+ but it seems that my drawing has fillet error.. maybe ill try back later when im finish modeling it.. besides im not familiar with meshing in catia as i think its easier with star ccm+..

@czt thats what i plan to do.. half of the car.. im solving 2 cars placed tandemly ( front and rear) so that mean 1 full car



i need to make sure my drawing is same as an f1 car as possible so is it ok im asking your opinions about my drawing here? but it is a simplified f1.. dont be too harsh as there will be many mistakes

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1. do i need to make hole or just a round fillet without hole..
2. is this hole acceptable for air flowing?
3. i dont have the dimension for helmet so from that view does it look ok?

Belatti
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Hi guys!

Im 100% newbie but want to learn some about CFD. I have Flowizard 2.0 and Im wondering if some of you aero experts could send me some Sports Proto drawing file just to learn how to use that soft.

It doesnt have to be a complex drawing, just a Solidedge, Autocad, Ansys or Catia file with a LM3 like car...

I you have any 3D model like this please PM me.

Thanks in advance.
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asdf10101
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Bellati.. i think there's lot of websites where u can download 3d car model
but im not so sure about it..

http://www.carbodydesign.com/download/3d-models/

http://artist-3d.com/free_3d_models/04v ... design.php



BTW

my problem with physical memory is solved after i changed to window 7 ultimate 64bit with 8 gb ram.

with window xp 32 bit its only capable of using 2 gb of ram until it crash..

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