2010 Winter Testing

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Afterburner wrote:
jddh1 wrote: How about jacking the car up with two jacks right under the driver? Maybe they might need only one.
Don't forget this year hidraulic jacks are forbidden, lifting 800kg it's not that easy, not to mention the fact that the weight it's almost all on the rear so jacking up in the middle wouldn't be very stable, IMO. Engineers and designers also wouldn't find a good ideia, it's almost like giving the other teams their weight distribution.
Just make an ultra wide lifter to solve that problem. Similar to the ones you see in the pictures but make the lifting parts about 4 feet wide and the handles almost as wide. Two guys slide it under the car and then they just pull back on it. It should have a linkage to allow a high mechanical advantage to be transferred without having the fulcrum to be at the edge of the car.
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Barcelona Day1

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Barcelona Day2

I have plotted the Greek site data of the Friday test in Barca. The minutes are left out. If you cannot read it at screen resolution download the graph at:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4729/bil ... 00227u.png

and print it.
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I thought I'd do my take on the race simulations too, removed all other data and normalized the starting times (Barca, day2):
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Circuit status: Air temperature: 9 ° C
Track temperature: 14 ° C
Test times Updated: 09:38
driver team Drive time difference #
1. N. Rosberg Mercedes GP W01 1:21.193 13 pit
2. S. Buemi Toro Rosso STR5 1:22.890 +1,697 9 pit
3. F. Bulk Ferrari F10 1:24.959 +3,766 8
4. K. Kobayashi Sauber C29 1:26.216 +5,023 8
5. J. Trulli Lotus F1 T127 1:26.235 +5,042 9 pit
6. R. Barrichello Williams FW32 1:27.092 +5,899 7

Button caused the first red flag for the day. It is green now. Sunny but relative cold at 9°C.

Some URLs to follow testing

Greek site publishes live timing and Excel data in the evening

Autosport live commentatory

Dutch site with Google translation gives summary incl. track temps and red flags

James Allan's Twitter collection, good for pics and live info from live journo and some driver/teams
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sun is gone and rain approaching
tabathavalls #F1 Here at the circuit they say the rain is coming... oh, start getting the umbrellas out!
3 minutes ago by Tabatha Valls, Journalists
09:02 Rosberg pits after two flying laps and it looks like he is working on qualifying pace this morning.

09:01 Meanwhile, Rosberg is back to setting the early pace as he improves the benchmark to a 1m20.891s.

09:00 Massa improves to a 1m23.490s but remains fourth overall for now.

08:59 Rosberg, Massa and Sutil are lapping at the moment.

08:58 Qualifying will be a major consideration for the teams to work on here as they need to understand how to find a compromise setup that works with low fuel on Saturday afternoons and a full tank to start the race.

Parc ferme, limiting setup changes between qualifying and the race, remains in the rules this year.

08:56 Buemi pits at the end of a five-lap stint averaging a 1m21.5s.
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a hydraulic jack is forbidden ,but who says you are not allowed to have it spring preloaded ? release the lift knob and the thing gets pushed up .Pull the lever and the spring gets detached...easy.and of course a on man show.

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Circuit status: Air temperature: 9 ° C
Track temperature: 14 ° C
Test times Updated: 11:29
driver team Drive time difference #
1. N. Rosberg Mercedes GP W01 1:20.686 24
2. S. Buemi Toro Rosso STR5 1:21.413 +0,727 21 pit
3. A. Sutil Force India VJM-03 1:22.951 +2,265 16 pit
4. F. Bulk Ferrari F10 1:23.490 +2,804 26 pit
5. R. Barrichello Williams FW32 1:23.976 +3,290 31
6. J. Trulli Lotus F1 T127 1:25.059 +4,373 28
7. K. Kobayashi Sauber C29 1:26.216 +5,530 31
8. V. Petrov Renault R30 1:26.346 +5,660 6 pit
9. J. Button McLaren MP4-25 1:41.446 +20,760 13 pit
It is wet and cold. Teams run race simulations. Kobayashi spun into a gravel bed but recovered.

Rosberg, Rubens,Trulli and Kobayashi on track atm.


11:42 red flag by Rubens spinning


Circuit status: Air temperature: 14 ° C
Track temperature: 20 ° C

Driver/Team Best Lap Last lap Difference Laps
1 N. Rosberg/Mercedes 1:20.686 1:27.218 111
2 S. Buemi/Toro Rosso 1:21.413 1:25.410 +0.727 103
3 V. Petrov/Renault 1:22.523 1:22.637 +1.837 54
4 A. Sutil/Force India 1:22.711 1:22.803 +2.025 46
5 F. Massa/Ferrari 1:23.490 1:26.320 +2.804 93
6 J. Button/McLaren 1:23.531 1:25.351 +2.845 84
7 R. Barrichello/Williams 1:23.976 1:26.905 +3.29 79
8 S. Vettel/Red Bull 1:24.331 1:24.891 +3.645 25
9 J. Trulli/Lotus 1:25.059 1:30.450 +4.373 85
10 K. Kobayashi/Sauber 1:26.216 1:28.439 +5.53 95
at 16:01 cloudy but dry
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Circuit status: Air temperature: 14 ° C
Track temperature: 20 ° C
Test times Updated: 16:21
driver team Drive time difference #
1. N. Rosberg Mercedes GP W01 1:20.686 124 pit
2. S. Buemi Toro Rosso STR5 1:21.413 +0,727 103 pit
3. F. Bulk Ferrari F10 1:22.344 +1,658 106 pit
4. V. Petrov Renault R30 1:22.523 +1,837 54 pit
5. A. Sutil Force India VJM-03 1:22.711 +2,025 51 pit
6. J. Button McLaren MP4-25 1:23.531 +2,845 97 pit
7. S. Vettel Red Bull Racing RB6 1:23.968 +3,282 37 pit
8. R. Barrichello Williams FW32 1:23.976 +3,290 92 pit
9. J. Trulli Lotus F1 T127 1:25.059 +4,373 92 pit
10. K. Kobayashi Sauber C29 1:26.216 +5,530 97 pit
red flag by Rosberg. out of fuel?
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imightbewrong wrote:I thought I'd do my take on the race simulations too, removed all other data and normalized the starting times (Barca, day2):
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How can Alonso's race simulation be so flat? He didn't seem to gain any time throughout the whole stint. Weird.

Seems like a lot of race simulations going on again today. It read like Button was going quicker than Massa over a similar distance, but it would be interesting to see the graphs of their relative performance.
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horse wrote:
imightbewrong wrote:I thought I'd do my take on the race simulations too, removed all other data and normalized the starting times (Barca, day2):
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How can Alonso's race simulation be so flat? He didn't seem to gain any time throughout the whole stint. Weird.
The only thing I can think of is Ferrari were testing the durability of soft’s and actually wanted to know if they could (through conservation) be able to maintain that pace over a given amount of laps!
Just a guess.
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Tazio wrote:
horse wrote:
imightbewrong wrote:I thought I'd do my take on the race simulations too, removed all other data and normalized the starting times (Barca, day2):
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How can Alonso's race simulation be so flat? He didn't seem to gain any time throughout the whole stint. Weird.
The only thing I can think of is Ferrari were testing the durability of soft’s and actually wanted to know if they could (through conservation) be able to maintain that pace over a given amount of laps!
Just a guess.
I heard the stint was made on softs, so maybe the "drop in performance on soft" = "gain in performance due to fuel weight" for Ferrari, who knows?

Anyway, the graph for todays afternoon. The rain has made todays data less readable IMO:
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You can see that Massa has the same flat time on his long stint, and that was reportedly made on softs too.

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It looks like McLaren may be changing their tyres a lot more than Ferarri. Perhaps they are not as gentle on them. If that's the case could we see McLaren trying to make up time on new rubber while Ferarri stick it out on old tyres for longer?
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I can imagine that Vettel is seeing red. Usually he likes to put his stamp on at least one day of the testing. I guess car problems really hampered his activities today .. or dare I say the RB just isn't as fast as it needs to be.

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horse wrote:
How can Alonso's race simulation be so flat? He didn't seem to gain any time throughout the whole stint. Weird.
tazio wrote: The only thing I can think of is Ferrari were testing the durability of soft’s and actually wanted to know if they could (through conservation) be able to maintain that pace over a given amount of laps!
Just a guess.
horse wrote: I heard the stint was made on softs, so maybe the "drop in performance on soft" = "gain in performance due to fuel weight" for Ferrari, who knows?



You can see that Massa has the same flat time on his long stint, and that was reportedly made on softs too.
I think there is a trend/method revealed here. I read something to the effect that Ferrari want to be able to run the first stint on soft's because it is a huge advantage in quali, They seem to really be putting it to the test
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