2010 Winter Testing

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ESPImperium wrote:That is true, so my figure may be slightly artificial tho. I will conceed that.

But some pic finds:

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I wonder if Ferrari will show up in Bahrein with the Shark Fin on their car :?:
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doopie2you wrote:
ESPImperium wrote:That is true, so my figure may be slightly artificial tho. I will conceed that.

But some pic finds:

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I wonder if Ferrari will show up in Bahrein with the Shark Fin on their car :?:

what about the rear rim of that Ferrari,is this a new design? I cannot remember having seen this before...???

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marcush. wrote:
doopie2you wrote:
ESPImperium wrote:That is true, so my figure may be slightly artificial tho. I will conceed that.

But some pic finds:

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I wonder if Ferrari will show up in Bahrein with the Shark Fin on their car :?:

what about the rear rim of that Ferrari,is this a new design? I cannot remember having seen this before...???
What about the air blower they've stuck to the sidepod, do you think they are trying the blown wing concept too? :)

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nah that is for brake cooling when the car is not in motion.. used by all teams... and that pic is from yesterday

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chasefreak wrote:nah that is for brake cooling when the car is not in motion.. used by all teams... and that pic is from yesterday
If the question from the guy was serious then i am very suprised that you answer it seriously :lol: Because if you just look with your eyes you will notice that it is a cooler, and not a thign that is stuck on the car for any purpose when it is driving :lol:
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marcush. wrote:
doopie2you wrote:
ESPImperium wrote:That is true, so my figure may be slightly artificial tho. I will conceed that.

But some pic finds:

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I wonder if Ferrari will show up in Bahrein with the Shark Fin on their car :?:

what about the rear rim of that Ferrari,is this a new design? I cannot remember having seen this before...???
I think that is just a simple replacement of the Wheel Fairing. At the front tires they got that to. I would be suprised if they wouldn't ban it. Because it will effect the airflow that moves at the side of the wheels.
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doopie2you wrote:I would be suprised if they wouldn't ban it. Because it will effect the airflow that moves at the side of the wheels.
Any wheel design will affect the flow around the wheel.
The only way to "ban" it is to stipulate standard wheel design. Do you want that?

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timbo wrote:
doopie2you wrote:I would be suprised if they wouldn't ban it. Because it will effect the airflow that moves at the side of the wheels.
Any wheel design will affect the flow around the wheel.
The only way to "ban" it is to stipulate standard wheel design. Do you want that?
If u ask me, i hate all kind of aerodynamic banns. I love all the things they think of to make the car faster/ beter to handel and other great stuff. But if they want more action, and want more overtaking. And they think that banning the wheel farrings is the way to do it. Then don't let ferrari make something like this, because it is the same as a wheel farring but then a bit smaller and with less effect
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doopie2you wrote:I love all the things they think of to make the car faster/ beter to handel and other great stuff. But if they want more action, and want more overtaking. And they think that banning the wheel farrings is the way to do it. Then don't let ferrari make something like this, because it is the same as a wheel farring but then a bit smaller and with less effect
I think that the main drive for wheel fairing ban was Alonso's Hungarian incident, so it was for safety reason. Therefore current Ferrari solutions does not go against the spirit of the rule.

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timbo wrote:
doopie2you wrote:I love all the things they think of to make the car faster/ beter to handel and other great stuff. But if they want more action, and want more overtaking. And they think that banning the wheel farrings is the way to do it. Then don't let ferrari make something like this, because it is the same as a wheel farring but then a bit smaller and with less effect
I think that the main drive for wheel fairing ban was Alonso's Hungarian incident, so it was for safety reason. Therefore current Ferrari solutions does not go against the spirit of the rule.
Well then i think you have not been following the news lately, because the Wheel Farrings are banned because it effects the airflow that goes by it, and makes it harded to overtake the car in front of you.

But yes, it is also one less thing that can go wrong at the pit stop.
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timbo wrote:
doopie2you wrote:I love all the things they think of to make the car faster/ beter to handel and other great stuff. But if they want more action, and want more overtaking. And they think that banning the wheel farrings is the way to do it. Then don't let ferrari make something like this, because it is the same as a wheel farring but then a bit smaller and with less effect
I think that the main drive for wheel fairing ban was Alonso's Hungarian incident, so it was for safety reason. Therefore current Ferrari solutions does not go against the spirit of the rule.
I wonder if Ferrari and BBS are trying a whle range of test pieces for the rims, and once they've found the optimum set that complies with the dimensional aspect of the rules, BBS will forge a single piece wheel to satisfy the construction rules. Also sure all the other teams have similar plans in the pipeline

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And even if they got no plans, they can always copy it. Because these days Copy Paste is MUCH easier then designing it yourself.
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This is from formula1.com :

No wheel fairings
Teams are no longer allowed to use the wheel rim covers that became so commonplace in 2009. Their removal means one less thing to go wrong when pit crews are trying to change of set of tyres in less than four seconds, and could also aid overtaking by making the airflow immediately behind cars less turbulent.

So Timbo, we are both right :D

http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules ... ions/8692/

But i am still wondering if they will aprove it, the rule says NO wheel fairing
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Hamilton and Schumacher on their race simulation, they made two stops.
Each time, either Alonso or Massa, Ferrari did only one-stop ..

Meanwhile, Sutil slammed big time, 1.20.6 before Vettel and Schumacher and just behind Massa.

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Circuit status: Air temperature: 16 ° C
Track temperature: 24 ° C
Test times Updated: 15:59
driver team Drive time difference #
1. L. Hamilton McLaren MP4-25 1:20.472 121 pit
2. M. Webber Red Bull Racing RB6 1:20.496 +0,024 46 pit
3. F. Bulk Ferrari F10 1:20.539 +0,067 98
4. A. Sutil Force India VJM-03 1:20.611 +0,139 95 pit
5. S. Vettel Red Bull Racing RB6 1:20.667 +0,195 76 pit
6. M. Schumacher Mercedes GP W01 1:20.745 +0,273 102
7. R. Barrichello Williams FW32 1:20.870 +0,398 80 pit
8. K. Kobayashi Sauber C29 1:20.911 +0,439 64 pit
9. S. Buemi Toro Rosso STR5 1:22.135 +1,663 78 pit
10. R. Kubica Renault R30 1:23.175 +2,703 96
11. H. Kovalainen Lotus F1 T127 1:25.251 +4,779 58 pit
12. L. Di Grassi Virgin Racing VR-01 1:26.160 +5,688 47 pit
It is sunny with clouds in Barcelona as we go into the last hour of the winter testing. The race simulations still continue but I expect a few more quali sims in the last 30 minutes. The mid field teams will want to be on top for the next 2 weeks. It is just to good to pass it for the sponsorship hunt. So watch Sauber, Force India and Toro Rosso pull out all the stops and potentially even run under weight.
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