Mercedes GP MGP W01

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The wheel nut is similar to Ferrari.

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that is a new front wing, a bit copying from red bull around the first flap edges, but it is a new wing
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Roger the knife
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Hmmm.. funny to see how flo-viz has suddenly become a legitimate part of testing procedure. When Macca use it, it's because they're in trouble, and when Merc use it, it's just evaluating stuff :lol:

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yip newish front wing,new stakes on the side of the nose cone but most of the changes are under the skin.

New diffusor for Bahrain brings new rear end body work and no it won't be a mamoth contraption like McLaren's . Can't really understand why Mac are pretending that their diffusor is big anyway,it's not.

Bring on race 1.

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Raptor22 wrote:yip newish front wing,new stakes on the side of the nose cone but most of the changes are under the skin.

New diffusor for Bahrain brings new rear end body work and no it won't be a mamoth contraption like McLaren's . Can't really understand why Mac are pretending that their diffusor is big anyway,it's not.

Bring on race 1.
No Mclarens diffuser is small, it only covers the whole rear wing in width and comes up to the beam wing :roll:

Really if you call that diffuser small then the others are miniscule
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Roger the knife wrote:Hmmm.. funny to see how flo-viz has suddenly become a legitimate part of testing procedure. When Macca use it, it's because they're in trouble, and when Merc use it, it's just evaluating stuff :lol:
Who said Merc were evaluating stuff?!

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Afterburner wrote:
Roger the knife wrote:Hmmm.. funny to see how flo-viz has suddenly become a legitimate part of testing procedure. When Macca use it, it's because they're in trouble, and when Merc use it, it's just evaluating stuff :lol:
Who said Merc were evaluating stuff?!
Nobody, although he does have a point. As soon as Mclaren started using it this pre-season its "Look, they are in deep deep trouble again."

Whereas we've successfully managed to go for nearly four hours in this thread without any doomsday predictions for Mercedes based upon the sighting of flo-vis paint. It almost got to the point that the presence of flo-vis paint means "trouble" which is nonsence. Its just funny when how it involves any of the big teams people's theories become massively exaggerated sometimes. I honestly believe that is Mercedes GP used pitot arrays like Mclaren have people will be saying "oh, look, how innovative of Ross Brawn and his team." whereas with Mclaren it was a case of "WOW...that's some major trouble they must be in." I'm not being biased towards Mclaren, I believe the same i believe would apply to Ferrari also, if they used flo-vis the "anti-tifosi" would be on a witch hunt lol.

I just hope that this is purely evaluating things for them. And even if it is not, Schumi will give great feedback to the engineers and designers and (if need be) Ross Brawn will help interpret that feedback as he and Schumi have many years expereince working together in particular with regards to the technical aspects of the car.
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My opinion is that they are in trouble at this moment, some people said they messed up their weight distribution, Massa also said they lack front grip and now they're trying to solve the problem and want to have sure their aero isn't messing around, especially on the front. Using flow paint on the last days of testing plus their testing lap times sugest me their a litle bit desperate.

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Afterburner wrote:My opinion is that they are in trouble at this moment, some people said they messed up their weight distribution, Massa also said they lack front grip and now they're trying to solve the problem and want to have sure their aero isn't messing around, especially on the front. Using flow paint on the last days of testing plus their testing lap times sugest me their a litle bit desperate.
How can Massa say they lack front grip? hes not driving it, the car might be fully tanked with fuel you dont know whats going on. flow vis is usefull i mean mclaren always using it and ended up the best devloped car in 2009, they found massive amount of time

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Afterburner-

They had the fastest average laps and were only .2 off the fastest lap today.

Not sure what your on about in reagrds to saying their lap times suggest they are desperate.

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Schumacher's race practice today wasn't very good...
Mclaren, Ferrari and Renault were better.
But as always, we don't now what kind of tires they used (new tires/qualifying tires/ hard, super hard..?)

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adam2007 wrote:
Afterburner wrote:My opinion is that they are in trouble at this moment, some people said they messed up their weight distribution, Massa also said they lack front grip and now they're trying to solve the problem and want to have sure their aero isn't messing around, especially on the front. Using flow paint on the last days of testing plus their testing lap times sugest me their a litle bit desperate.
How can Massa say they lack front grip? hes not driving it, the car might be fully tanked with fuel you dont know whats going on. flow vis is usefull i mean mclaren always using it and ended up the best devloped car in 2009, they found massive amount of time

Massa knows MS driving style and he said their front tires worn too quickly, he can easily compare F10 to Merc in terms off behaviour, quick or not only after quali.

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djones wrote:Afterburner-

They had the fastest average laps and were only .2 off the fastest lap today.

Not sure what your on about in reagrds to saying their lap times suggest they are desperate.
He was 6th and was a bit more than .2s off the pace, it's not a big deal but from that perspective we have 8 teams fighting for championship and we all know that isn't true. Last year testing BGP didn't had any problems showing their true pace from first lap.

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Afterburner wrote:
djones wrote:Afterburner-

They had the fastest average laps and were only .2 off the fastest lap today.

Not sure what your on about in reagrds to saying their lap times suggest they are desperate.
He was 6th and was a bit more than .2s off the pace, it's not a big deal but from that perspective we have 8 teams fighting for championship and we all know that isn't true. Last year testing BGP didn't had any problems showing their true pace from first lap.
yeah because the car was so advanced compared to everyone else, really devloped even if they didnt put their foot on the throttle for the first 2 seconds of the lap they still be fastest over the line if you understand

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Ross Brawn for the BBC wrote:"The balance is getting better, there's set-up and obviously efficiency counts. So the upgrade should bring predominantly an efficiency improvement and therefore a performance improvement."
Ross Brawn says top Formula 1 teams are closely matched
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