Red Bull RB6

[marinopc]

And that big hole in the back? What do you think?

[i70q7m7ghw]

You can see the exhaust stickers in this picture - on the right.



A complete waste of resources really.

[djones]

I wonder if it will sound different like the old MP4-16 did with its exhausts which came out underneath (iirc).

As a side note that was the best sounding F1 car of all time in my view.

I remember seeing it at silverstone...

It came out of the pits, stopped and did a practice launch. The entire crowd basically went silent for a few seconds it was that good. Indeed it even made my stomach go a bit funny.

[Raptor22]

I don't think having the xahaust in that position has anything to do with energising the diffuser unless there is an inlet feeding it in very close proximity.
For the exhausts to effectively speed up the air flow the end of the pipe shouild be flush with a wall of the diffusor.

With some 12inches between the end of the RB6 pipes and the upper deck of the diffusor the hot gas would have lost much of its kinetic energy and returned to atmospheric pressure.

I believe the only reason he has the exhausts so low is for a lower CofG and to unclutter the air flow coming off the side pod and flowing over the lower rear wing and THAT provides the kinetic energy slingshot thanks to the low pressure under that wing.

[mith]

Thanks, Diesel Nice trick as I saw this photo already and was fooled by it at the first glance.

[slideways]

Yes this is about containing the exhaust flow on the bottom 'step' of the bodywork and getting a clean flow of air from the front of the car right back to the beam wing and rear end ... eg:

[BreezyRacer]

To all the delusional Kimi fans expecting him to get Webbers seat next year, not gonna happen!

AutoSport - No plans to hire Raikkonen - Mateschitz

Red Bull owner Dietrich Mateschitz have denied plans to hand Kimi Raikkonen a seat in his team if the Finn decides to return to Formula 1.

Raikkonen is currently competing in the World Rally Championship after securing a deal with the Citroen junior team, which is backed by Red Bull.

The 2007 world champion admitted the move could be permanent and that he is yet to decide on his plans for 2011.

But Mateschitz has made it clear that despite Raikkonen's link with Red Bull, there are no plans to hand the Finn a seat next year.

"This is nothing more than pure speculation," said Mateschitz. "We do not know what Kimi intends to do in one year. We have a very good relationship which makes room for speculations.

"But to tell you now Kimi will be racing for us in 2011 is not serious. If Webber provides top performances this year we will not reward him by giving his cockpit to Raikkonen."

Australian Mark Webber has a contract with Red Bull Racing until the end of this year, while team-mate Sebastian Vettel has a contract until 2012.

DM doesn't say much but when he does it sure is worth listening to!

"But to tell you now Kimi will be racing for us in 2011 is not serious. If Webber provides top performances this year we will not reward him by giving his cockpit to Raikkonen."

He says what happens if Webber has a good year .. he provides lots of room by ommision if Webber has a bad year (and BTW I think webber will do great .. but if he doesn't ..)

[Fil]

"But to tell you now Kimi will be racing for us in 2011 is not serious. If Webber provides top performances this year we will not reward him by giving his cockpit to Raikkonen."

He says what happens if Webber has a good year .. he provides lots of room by ommision if Webber has a bad year (and BTW I think webber will do great .. but if he doesn't ..)

That also says a lot about Webber's outlook. He's already admitted being in a race-winning car is what has kept him from retiring.
So if it is he that personally prevents the potential for race wins, he'll walk away of his own accord.

[Mysticf1]

I wonder if it will sound different like the old MP4-16 did with its exhausts which came out underneath (iirc).

I too remember the distinctive sound of the MP4-16 however if my memory serves me correctly this was due to the exhausts converging to a single outlet into the diffuser instead of 2 separate outlets as seen on all current designs.

[Blackout]

Last year's Rb5:
(The early RB6 has a quite different wishbone dimensions as you know (they are a little further forward attached to the gear box) and exhausts integration but comparison is very possible...)

[marcush.]

lowering mass in the car is always a top of agenda thing ,especially when you have reached a point in car design and manufacture where there is not much scope in finding ways to reduce weight of components anymore .so in effect the say 60 kilos of ballast they carry are as low as possible in the car anyways and now it is the time to thinka bout what could be done to lower the CG further.
No scope for it in the engine ,as this has a mandatory CG height. So now we are really in a rush to find bits that could be repositioned for CG height.
But placing the exhaust tip low ,you night have trouble to fit the pipes of the
header as you did before so in effect i doubt theres much to come from this in terms of CGheight how much does the header weigh? i held a Sauber part in my hands a few years ago and it was just so light you´d think it was made from chewinggum paper..

[nacho]

Amazing how tight it is there. So much design work to make it all fit together and function in such harsh conditions.

[BreezyRacer]

lowering mass in the car is always a top of agenda thing ,especially when you have reached a point in car design and manufacture where there is not much scope in finding ways to reduce weight of components anymore .so in effect the say 60 kilos of ballast they carry are as low as possible in the car anyways and now it is the time to thinka bout what could be done to lower the CG further.
No scope for it in the engine ,as this has a mandatory CG height. So now we are really in a rush to find bits that could be repositioned for CG height.
But placing the exhaust tip low ,you night have trouble to fit the pipes of the
header as you did before so in effect i doubt theres much to come from this in terms of CGheight how much does the header weigh? i held a Sauber part in my hands a few years ago and it was just so light you´d think it was made from chewinggum paper..

My 5 cents would be that they moved the exhausts to make more room for the diffuser ports and external airflow control around the port exits. The exhausts themselves weigh next to nothing. And figuring the insulation you would need to add to the deck, this package could conceivably be heavier.

[Lurk]

What I am going to say is very far-fetched (I have absolutly no aerodynamic knowledge) but: is it possible that airflow runing along sidepods also accelerates exhaust fumes, helping them to free cylinders ? (and so having a more powerful engine)

(You've been warned )

[raymondu999]

1 thing's for sure though. The RB7 will be a kiler