Is F1 getting boring?

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The 70's - 90's were better. I still don't agree with the paddle shifting even Indy cars don't have paddle shifters. I am happy Lotus has returned but it's really not Lotus. The new teams are to slow to compete with the rest of the field. Even if you gave them a lap head start they would still be the last ones to finish.
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Getting boring, NO!
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F1 is no longer the pinnacle of motorsports. I used to be a big fan but it's time for a change.
People don't understand that it was maybe my biggest pleasure to drive an F1 car when it's wet. - Alain Prost

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What makes it no longer the pinnacle? Restrictive rules have existed in F1 through out its history. Sometimes the abstract of the past glorifies what was essentially a fairly similar situation to what we have now.

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Mysticf1 wrote:What makes it no longer the pinnacle? Restrictive rules have existed in F1 through out its history. Sometimes the abstract of the past glorifies what was essentially a fairly similar situation to what we have now.
Well for one thing the cars are more easier to drive. Schumacher one most of his titles with traction control. Plus the cars are uglier than ever and the engineering of the sport is not like it used to be.
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They are possibly easier to drive because the engineers have gotten better at their job, MS won his titles because he along with Ferrari did the best job of building a car and team...The engineering is far more complex now than it ever was.

If you want F1 to be like the old days you need all the current engineers to forget what they know, and that includes the tyre supplier.

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in NO way it's gettinb boring man; what are you talking??? [-X

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Mysticf1 wrote:They are possibly easier to drive because the engineers have gotten better at their job, MS won his titles because he along with Ferrari did the best job of building a car and team...The engineering is far more complex now than it ever was.

If you want F1 to be like the old days you need all the current engineers to forget what they know, and that includes the tyre supplier.
Thats not true the engineers back then came up with some wild radical designs that was way before there time. Thats right MS car was great if only ruebens was aloud to race him he would have not won so many championships. With all the rule changes the engineering and technology is low because of spending cuts.
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It's so boring I'm getting up at 2:30AM to watch quali.
You would probably get some positive support if you asked this question after we have about three really processional races in a row. Right now there are dynamics at play (like who is really fastest) that has followers full of interest, and anticipation.
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NO the engineering focus is just different, just look at the highly complex simulators, CFD, CAD thst is used today, sure they arnt as visual as a brahbam fan car or active suspension...dont forget todays cars are quicker than most of those in the past.

Watch some old races and tell me if the top 10 are within a second in qualifying...if thats boring well i must be doing something wrong :P

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Without Kimi, F1 is boring..

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Germanengineering wrote:F1 is no longer the pinnacle of motorsports.
Germanengineering wrote:I still don't agree with the paddle shifting..
Germanengineering wrote: Well for one thing the cars are more easier to drive.
...the engineering of the sport is not like it used to be.
Germanengineering wrote:With all the rule changes the engineering and technology is low because of spending cuts.
Wait, so u want stick-shift back..
But then you want higher technology & engineering..
But then you want the cars to be harder to drive..

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What exactly do you think technology in cars aims to achieve?
And what, in your eyes, makes a race series the pinnacle of motorsport (and which race series currently is)?
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Watching it could be more exciting, for sure.

Wish they'd have better onboards.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOOgfsc5wc4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kONSQIW30vY[/youtube]

That's what I wanna see... more from the driver's perspective.
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Jersey Tom wrote:Watching it could be more exciting, for sure.

Wish they'd have better onboards.


That's what I wanna see... more from the driver's perspective.
Totally agree, although I'd also like to go back to cars that were visibly more difficult to drive, but I guess that's unlikely to happen.

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Germanengineering wrote:
Mysticf1 wrote:What makes it no longer the pinnacle? Restrictive rules have existed in F1 through out its history. Sometimes the abstract of the past glorifies what was essentially a fairly similar situation to what we have now.
Well for one thing the cars are more easier to drive. Schumacher one most of his titles with traction control. Plus the cars are uglier than ever and the engineering of the sport is not like it used to be.
F1 may be "easier" but it sure as hell isn't easy. They only reason it seems easy, is because you've got the best drivers and also their fitness is at such a high level it allows them to race.

Here's a normal person, Richard Hammond, trying out various Formula cars, then a Renault F1
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo[/youtube]

edit: to answer the question. No. F1 is entertaining, has technical intrigue and although not the technological pinnacle in some areas, it is in others (possibly more than you think).
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