any electric power steer kit for non- power steer car?

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Scania
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dose the NSX EPSA can work by itself, no need to match CAN network of the car?

marcush.
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Scania wrote:dose the NSX EPSA can work by itself, no need to match CAN network of the car?
look up the functional charts on the link ,no mention of CAN interface anywhere ,the ssystem relies on simple inputs and diagnoses itself...
with a modification of input signals I could imagine the possibility to tune the unit as well..from my point of view the system looks like a stand alone but then this is all the information I have found ,it would be surely useful to check a nsx workshop manual and wiring diagrammes before deciding on a dead horse.

Scania
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so, what input signal does it need from the car?

marcush.
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Scania wrote:so, what input signal does it need from the car?
it is all in the scheme:



http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Technical/i ... -18-11.gif

Scania
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should the signal take from NSX computer?

marcush.
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Scania wrote:should the signal take from NSX computer?
there is no hint that this signal needs to come from an ecu but as i said before it would be a benfit to check out the wiring layout to make sure how the signals and from where they are into the steering ecu .if it is based on a bus system you are f..d.,no question but it should be straghtforward to see this in the wiring diagrammes (if it was a bus)

Scania
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sorry but I'm still not so understand....
do there any case of move the NSX Power steer system to other car?

marcush.
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Scania wrote:sorry but I'm still not so understand....
do there any case of move the NSX Power steer system to other car?
from evidence in the link i provided ,I´d say this is a pure mechanical installation thing to perform .

I would also check wiring diagrammes of the Honda NSX (ebay?) if this is valid before purchasing hardware.
Or try to find a NSX specialist .He should know.

countersteer
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Here is an incredible build thread that includes installation of an electric steering column from a Vauxhall Corsa. Not saying this is your solution but it should give you some ideas. http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php? ... &start=325

The power steering starts on page 14 of the thread if it takes you to the front.

This is an awesome build, by the way...

Greg Locock
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Yes the Corsa unit is quite popular with off road racers.

The reason to fit EPAS on road cars is fuel consumption as Tim says, when the steering wheel isn't moving an EPAS is drawing virtually no power, whereas an HPAS pump is working almost as hard as ever (I assume the nay sayers do actually understand how an HPAS works).

http://www.ultimatepowersteering.com.au ... ng-epas-1/ for another source

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Greg Locock wrote: .... when the steering wheel isn't moving an EPAS is drawing virtually no power, whereas an HPAS pump is working almost as hard as ever ......
I measured 7-8 Amps continuous and 11 Amps when steering (Peugeot 106)

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100W straight line, 600W max sounds about right. Now compare that with an HPAS. You do need to factor in the alternator efficiency of course.