Malaysian GP 2010 - Sepang

[horse]

This weaving is certainly not ok.

Hamilton is on notice now and if he messes up one more time like that he will have to pay the price.

Agree with you there. I thought the weaving was not OK. I'm under the impression, though, that Hamilton will have a clean slate for China, or does a warning carry forward in some manner?

I guess that Vettel has stamped his authority over Webber and that Webber will loose the psychological battle for the championship sometime in the next three or four races.

You say that, but Mark got back at Vettel in the second half of last season after Vettel seemed dominant early on. I wouldn't write him off just yet.

The teams need to go for more mechanical grip cut aero back significantly beyond the ban of the DDDs and bring back unlimited KERS next year. These decisions are urgent because the main specs for the 2011 cars are set now.

Unlimited KERS? That won't be very good though because everyone will just have their finger on the button all of the time. It has to be limited to some extent, I think, but less than last year. I fear we will not see the return of KERS though until the engine rules are changed. We'll see, if someone is willing to sell a standard unit at low cost, then maybe beforehand.

EDIT: I appreciate the physics of all the time don't quite add up, but it needs to be used strategically to be interesting.

[woohoo]

ditto.

[timbo]

So far I liked what Todt done as the head of FIA.
We also haven't had any penalty at the three races of the season so far. Also a good sign.

[PlatinumZealot]

Common sense.

Hamilton was trying to get out of Petrov's way and Petrov followed. SIMPLE!

What is wrong with getting out of somebody's way? So all the backmarkers must be penalized every 15 laps?

[andrew]

I watched the race with the Radio 5 commentary and both the commentators were pretty annoyed at Hamilton changing line in front of Petrov. Although a driver defending their position can only change line once, Hamilton changed his line 4 or 5 times and only got a warning.

My question is, Does anyone know that if the driver behind doesn't complain is the penalty lessened or did Hamilton just get off lightly? I think Johnny Herbet just let him off (very) lightly but I may be wrong.


Regarding KERS, this is not a solution to the dire state of F1. If all cars have the same KERS unit (as per the 2011 regs) then there won't be any difference. All the cars will have the same amount of boost. Be aswell bring back turbos!!

Surely having cars that have less downforce and are more reliable on mechanical grip rather than aero would be better. Ultra hard tyres might help also. And of coursemore of the older tracks rather than Tilke designed dros (ok Sepang is good and Turkey is ok but I can't think of another track that he designed that is any good).

[WhiteBlue]

This weaving is certainly not ok.

Hamilton is on notice now and if he messes up one more time like that he will have to pay the price.

Agree with you there. I thought the weaving was not OK. I'm under the impression, though, that Hamilton will have a clean slate for China, or does a warning carry forward in some manner?

Warning to a driver for unsportsman-like behavior.

IMHO the stewards of the China GP can keep this in memory and should another such unsporting behavior occurr punish Hamilton. We do not know yet what the stewards will write in their final report but I think they will mention Hamilton.

[Mr Alcatraz]

I think it is quite interesting that FI seem to have marginalized McL's straight line advantage by simply running less rear wing.
(if that is all they actually did)

I may be wrong, but I think it is very fortuitous that after three races, and only one more before the start of the European season that Red Bull don't have a huge points advantage. McL', Ferrari, Mercedes, and possibly though less likely FI,and Renault will be able to level the playing field to a large degree IMO with the usual Euro-upgrades. RB, and Newey will have a few more tricks up their sleeve, but I will be very surprised If Mcl' and Ferrari don't close the gap JMHO

I think everyone here knows I am a Ferrari enthusiast first, and an Alonso "honk" second. Having said that am I the only one that believes (by outward appearance) that the most humble pilot of the top point getters (with the possible exception of Webber) is FA?

And yes I find Fettel's attitude a little annoying.

It will be interesting either way how he projects himself if he continues to hold form.
He's exuberant at the least. But if he starts acting cocky I would love to see Webbo' physically kick his ass.
And you know Mark could snap his skinny ass in half. :-"

[WhiteBlue]

http://rapidshare.com/files/371968739/F ... g_2010.zip

The timing information and all report as available on Sunday evening are included.

[Pup]

This weaving is certainly not ok.

Hamilton is on notice now and if he messes up one more time like that he will have to pay the price.

Agree with you there. I thought the weaving was not OK. I'm under the impression, though, that Hamilton will have a clean slate for China, or does a warning carry forward in some manner?

Warning to a driver for unsportsman-like behavior.

IMHO the stewards of the China GP can keep this in memory and should another such unsporting behavior occurr punish Hamilton. We do not know yet what the stewards will write in their final report but I think they will mention Hamilton.

He certainly crossed the line, but I don't think weaving is something he's known for. The marshals have been letting all the drivers get away with violating that rule for some time now, so I saw the warning as being as much for the entire field as it was just for Hamilton. To me, that's the way the marshals should deal with a rule that's been poorly enforced in the past. Give them a warning and let them know that you'll be watching from now on. Last year, under Donelly, they'd have given Hamilton a drive through without a second thought.

I'm more interested in the massive tow that Petrov was getting in the first place. Niether Massa nor Alonso seem to have been benefitting from much tow from Button. I wonder if it was something particular to Petrov or Hamilton's setups that was providing Petie with such a boost.

[WhiteBlue]

I'm more interested in the massive tow that Petrov was getting in the first place. Niether Massa nor Alonso seem to have been benefitting from much tow from Button. I wonder if it was something particular to Petrov or Hamilton's setups that was providing Petie with such a boost.

James Allan published a report about the wash out front wings and how they are adding a ton of downforce and being more effective than the DDDs. I reckon that Renault simply have a very good front wing now.

[Ray]

He certainly crossed the line, but I don't think weaving is something he's known for. The marshals have been letting all the drivers get away with violating that rule for some time now, so I saw the warning as being as much for the entire field as it was just for Hamilton. To me, that's the way the marshals should deal with a rule that's been poorly enforced in the past. Give them a warning and let them know that you'll be watching from now on. Last year, under Donelly, they'd have given Hamilton a drive through without a second thought.

I can't remember the last time I saw a driver swerve from one side completely to the other, the whole track width damn near, three times on one straight. Mostly they have been blocking the hell out of each other once and the diving back across the track to set up for an apex. He's the only one I can remember that did it three times on one straightaway. But hey, he whines and complains like a baby, so why not treat him like one. Simple smack on the wrist.

The Lewis adoration idiocy is deep this season. He got off easy in Australia fighting with Nico when they came up on a yellow flag and Nico couldn't get right back at Lewis in that corner allowing Lewis an easy pass and no retaliation, and now he's swerving like a drunk across the width of the track and gets a mere warning. With the speed advantage he had over every car but the ForceIndia on the straights it would be a shame if he didn't blow past them all on track. This crap is getting ridiculous, most of you have a massive amount of bias and it's ruining good discussion.

[PlatinumZealot]

I watched the race with the Radio 5 commentary and both the commentators were pretty annoyed at Hamilton changing line in front of Petrov. Although a driver defending their position can only change line once, Hamilton changed his line 4 or 5 times and only got a warning.

This is the thing Hamilon was not defending his position. He was moving away from his position. Petrov then followed Hamilton trying NOT TO PASS BUT TO GET INTO THE SLIPSTREAM. Petrov wasn't even close enough to get into the slipstream and Hamilton didn't want him to get into the slipstream. Nothing wrong with that. It's Petrov's problem if he wants to follow Hamilton's weaving. Why didn't Petrov go straight?

[ISLAMATRON]

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I just wish some of you were man enough to say what you really feel about Hamilton.

THE BOSSClearly the co-driver of the race along with Vettle.

Hamilton started behind Button and Alonso and ran/finished ahead of both of them. alonso clearly broke his car and threw way points, much like Hamilton did in Monza last year but I dont hear any of the sane stupid comments that the Tifosi were making last year. Good drive by Alonso, good to see him pushing hard rather then settling for what would have been 9th place.

[ISLAMATRON]

I also think they should incorperate the Hamilton esses onto the front straight, very entertaining, for both the TV viewers but also the Grandstand watchers

[andrew]

Hamilton started behind Button and Alonso and ran/finished ahead of both of them. alonso clearly broke his car and threw way points, much like Hamilton did in Monza last year but I dont hear any of the sane stupid comments that the Tifosi assholes were making last year. Good drive by Alonso, good to see him pushing hard rather then settling for what would have been 9th place.[/quote]

Hamilton made not 1, not 2, not 3 not 4 but 5 line changes. A driver can only make 1 move legally. He should have at the very least got a drive through but the English steward thought otherwise. This makes a mockery of former race drivers being steward and sets a dangerous precedent. Petrov was right on Hamitons gearbox and could have got past if it hadn't been for Hamilton driving like a drunk.