2012 GP New York

[Just_a_fan]

Don't need a US GP. Don't want a US GP.

The US is irrelevant to F1 now that the manufacturers have gone. The US has enough of its own home-grown racing, why "waste" a GP when there are more worthy places to go?

Oh, yes, of course - Bernie will get lots of money. Silly me for forgetting...

[jon-mullen]

Um, for us, the fans? My research shows the US accounts for 29.1% of the traffic on this site (2nd being the UK with 14.1%) and we're 3rd on Formula1.com with 10.2%, so there are plenty of fans in the US. Funny, I didn't see South Korea on a single one of those lists and they're allegedly getting a Grand Prix, if they have the infrastructure and bank to build a track in time.

[flynfrog]

why put it on a street when we have some many great track here. That and NY sucks

[WhiteBlue]

why put it on a street when we have some many great track here. That and NY sucks

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/05/ ... rsey-city/

You guys should be reading the press statements. It is obvious that a NY race would be on a dedicated track in the Liberty State Park or according to other sources near the IZOD center and the Giants Stadium.

Don't need a US GP. Don't want a US GP.

The US is irrelevant to F1 now that the manufacturers have gone. The US has enough of its own home-grown racing, why "waste" a GP when there are more worthy places to go?

Oh, yes, of course - Bernie will get lots of money. Silly me for forgetting...

There are still two manufacturers in F1 and all teams are eager to get US sponsors on board. The last man likely to profit from a US F1 race is Bernie. He knows that racing in the US is cheap and people will not pay what he wants to charge for the race. But with a destination such as NY he can easily fill 150.000 seats and not worry about transportation and accommodation for the fans. Last not least he will get other races together with the US race as he makes it a condition to expand races to accommodate a USGP or two.

I actually think Bernie is also looking at winter venues. He was seen in Marocco which kind of makes sense to revive with a tradition of pre war GPs. I bet he still thinks of a SoCal or Florida race in addition to NY to make it two tours. NY can team up with Canada and the southern race with Brazil.

[Chaparral]

Having been to New Jersey a number of times on business I know the area theyre proposing - it could work for sure and I hope it does and given Britain is only 6 hours behind time wise from NY it works for television (forget the rest of world we dont exist)I would just hope they get an American to design the circuit or at least someone other than Tilke Ive had enough of those white elephants at this stage

[xpensive]

Spend the Money to upgrade Watkins Glen upstate NY, great track, even greater scenery.

[pgj]

Watkins Glen is a great call.

I despise the cynicism of calls for street races in London, Rome, New York and, wherever. The attraction of these races has nothing to do with F1 racing. I do not give a jot for F1 cars going past 'famous landmarks'. F1 has and has had plenty of landmarks of its own at circuits around the world. That has never prevented them from being threatened to be removed from the calendar. This move is all about money. Some would find its way back into F1 but the vast majority will go straight out of F1.

When CVC decides to cash in its chips and take its profit from F1, FOTA and the FIA should put a deal together to buy the rights back. Then and only then will this circus that Bernie controls stop.

[ISLAMATRON]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83332

discussion over

[WhiteBlue]

Obviously someone had a look at the engine noise F1 would bring to the neigborhood.

One look at Watkins Glen and it's history tells you that there will never be an F1 race there again. The track is deep in the middle of nowhere with no hotels or infrastructure whatsoever. It is worse than Indianapolis in many ways.

[ISLAMATRON]

Indy, (as much as I hate the city) is the perfect place for the USGP... The track can be improved but is not as bad as many think... the facilities are topnotch and it has the infrastructure already in place.

[andrew]

Indy, (as much as I hate the city) is the perfect place for the USGP... The track can be improved but is not as bad as many think... the facilities are topnotch and it has the infrastructure already in place.

That as maybe but it was a crap F1 circuit. The races were boring as hell.

[donskar]

Um, for us, the fans? My research shows the US accounts for 29.1% of the traffic on this site (2nd being the UK with 14.1%) and we're 3rd on Formula1.com with 10.2%, so there are plenty of fans in the US. Funny, I didn't see South Korea on a single one of those lists and they're allegedly getting a Grand Prix, if they have the infrastructure and bank to build a track in time.

Very interesting, though logic has no place in Bernie's World -- just money.

[JohnMoore4u]

I would love to see the 2012 GP in New York..
Very much likely its not going to happen
Anyway we will Hope for the best

With Regards,
John,

[gibells]

From Autosport:

Upstate New York track eyeing F1 race

By Jonathan Noble Friday, May 21st 2010, 08:46 GMT

New York state could yet be the venue of a United States Grand Prix, after details emerged this week of plans to host a race at the Monticello Motor Club - 90 minutes from Manhattan.

Just a few weeks after a bid to hold a race in New Jersey was scuppered when the mayor ruled it out, it has been revealed that talks are underway for a race at the venue that is located at the foot of the Catskill Mountains.

American publication Autoweek has published a letter from Ari Strauss, the president of the Monticello Motor Club, who talks about meeting F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone and having hosted F1 track architect Hermann Tilke at the venue.

In the letter, Strauss says: "A few months ago, [MMC chairman] Bill McMichael and I met with Bernie Ecclestone, President/CEO of Formula One Management (FOM), and discussed the terms for an exclusive 10-year United States Grand Prix to be hosted at MMC.

"Shortly thereafter, Hermann Tilke, the chief engineer and circuit designer for F1, spent time at MMC and confirmed that our track and surrounding properties, with some expansion and minor track modifications, is an excellent location for a Grand Prix

"Since receiving a letter of understanding from FOM confirming their hope to bring the U.S. Grand Prix to Monticello, Bill and I have continued to secure the backing and support of local, state, and federal politicians and organizations."

Despite the hopes expressed by Ecclestone, Strauss does admit that it is far from certain an F1 deal can be pulled off.

"Securing F1 is like winning the Olympics, competition is fierce, and this is not a done deal," he added. "While the prospect of F1 at MMC is exciting, we remain focused on our core business: the club and its members."

The Monticello venue is 4.1 miles long, and features 22 corners.

Looks great. What do you US boys think of this one?

[WhiteBlue]

I think that Monticelli is as hopeless as any other facility in the middle of nowhere. There are no hotel capacities, no rail link to Newark airport which would be the logical destination for global travellers and the appeal to the beautiful and the rich is zero. They must be joking.