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'tis a work of art..... =D>

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This little curve here (yellow), put's even more air to the side of the car, to prevent air from migrating under the side of the car. Nice little part for the other teams to investigate putting on the wing element.
Reddbull are the first to put a turning vane on wing element itself. Could be giving them alot of time. Just like how Lotus' new wing clearly put them ahead of Virgin racing.
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Scary to think how much quicker they would have been with the Mercedes Power Plant!

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jason.parker.86 wrote:Scary to think how much quicker they would have been with the Mercedes Power Plant!
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I was just about to say that
Mercedes engine has been the most reliable one so far(since 2007 I think).RB6 reminds me of my favorite F1 car MP4-20 which was also designed by Newey but lost both championships due to that year's Mercedes engine :(
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Just think how much more awesome they'd be with bitchin' NASCAR V8.
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djos wrote:
BreezyRacer wrote:So which front wing will they run? The open ended one or the boxed one?
Which ever one it was the RB6 is now 8/10ths of a second faster than any one else! =D>

They could have locked out the front row on the Hard tires they where so fast! :lol: 8)

Go Webbo!!!! 8)
Just for the record they both ended up using the open ended front wing.

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Morteza AMG wrote:
jason.parker.86 wrote:Scary to think how much quicker they would have been with the Mercedes Power Plant!
+1
I was just about to say that
Mercedes engine has been the most reliable one so far(since 2007 I think).RB6 reminds me of my favorite F1 car MP4-20 which was also designed by Newey but lost both championships due to that year's Mercedes engine :(
1-the whole car was not reliable (mp4-20)
2-the Renault engine is reliable, not the Red bull
3-that engine is not as 'weak' as some silly people say...

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Morteza AMG wrote:
jason.parker.86 wrote:Scary to think how much quicker they would have been with the Mercedes Power Plant!
+1
I was just about to say that
I don't buy that. I just don't see how the Mercedes engine is any more powerful or driveable than the Renault has turned out to be in either the hands of Red Bull or the Renault team themselves. Christian Horner gave a figure of thirty or forty horsepower that he figures they are short releative to Mercedes powered cars, which is absolute nonsense. Only a concerted development programme could give that kind of performance advantage which homologation just won't give them. I mean, with those figures we're starting to get into the power discrepancy that there was between the Renault V10 and the Ford V8 early in the 90s. It's rubbish.
Mercedes engine has been the most reliable one so far(since 2007 I think).
I don't see that the Renault engine has been terribly unreliable.
RB6 reminds me of my favorite F1 car MP4-20 which was also designed by Newey but lost both championships due to that year's Mercedes engine :(
Contrary to popular belief, the MP4-20 did not lose championships purely because it was unreliable. It was because McLaren couldn't get the speed out of the car for the first four or five races, whereupon Alonso and Renault had built a big enough lead. They then had one or two mechanical issues and some Mercedes engine problems. The RB6 is not in that situation because the speed has been there from the first race and they've scored enough points that they're within touching distance of the top of both championships.

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segedunum wrote:
Morteza AMG wrote:
jason.parker.86 wrote:Scary to think how much quicker they would have been with the Mercedes Power Plant!
+1
I was just about to say that
I don't buy that. I just don't see how the Mercedes engine is any more powerful or driveable than the Renault has turned out to be in either the hands of Red Bull or the Renault team themselves. Christian Horner gave a figure of thirty or forty horsepower that he figures they are short releative to Mercedes powered cars, which is absolute nonsense. Only a concerted development programme could give that kind of performance advantage which homologation just won't give them. I mean, with those figures we're starting to get into the power discrepancy that there was between the Renault V10 and the Ford V8 early in the 90s. It's rubbish.
Mercedes engine has been the most reliable one so far(since 2007 I think).
I don't see that the Renault engine has been terribly unreliable.
RB6 reminds me of my favorite F1 car MP4-20 which was also designed by Newey but lost both championships due to that year's Mercedes engine :(
Contrary to popular belief, the MP4-20 did not lose championships purely because it was unreliable. It was because McLaren couldn't get the speed out of the car for the first four or five races, whereupon Alonso and Renault had built a big enough lead. They then had one or two mechanical issues and some Mercedes engine problems. The RB6 is not in that situation because the speed has been there from the first race and they've scored enough points that they're within touching distance of the top of both championships.
Thanks mate, I have nothing but to say You're right. That was my idea and I'm not a technician but just a fan. I'm not against Red Bull but I hope they won't lose championship due to any technical problems. Vettel was retired from 3 races last season and lost championship to 11 points! I don't want it to happen again.
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BreezyRacer wrote:So which front wing will they run? The open ended one or the boxed one?
Sorry guys, I got a little confused. Which one is the "boxed" one?

Here is a pic from Malaysia:
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... ce/186.jpg

It seems to to be the same as the one above (http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af2 ... 1wri-1.jpg).

Is this the "open" one? Haven't found pics of the boxed one...

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segedunum wrote:Contrary to popular belief, the MP4-20 did not lose championships purely because it was unreliable. It was because McLaren couldn't get the speed out of the car for the first four or five races, whereupon Alonso and Renault had built a big enough lead. They then had one or two mechanical issues and some Mercedes engine problems. The RB6 is not in that situation because the speed has been there from the first race and they've scored enough points that they're within touching distance of the top of both championships.
They had some problem in the first 3 fly-away races. One of the issues was problem with generating enough heat in the tires, especially during qualifying.

Once the F1 circus hit the Europe McLaren was at the front. Kimi got the pole in San Marino and stormed to the commanding lead just to retire few laps later with broken drive shaft. They had few last minute engine changes, also. Although you have to say luck was on their side as they were able to find the problem before the race.

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I think the Mercedes plant is worth upto 0.3sec per lap, and is the most reliable engine on the grid (and has been for a couple of years). Renault engine is just not powerful enough... and too unreliable.

Compare the amount of DNF's Renault has had compared to Merc! Either way the Red Bull would be much quicker with that Merc pack!

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nedc wrote:
BreezyRacer wrote:So which front wing will they run? The open ended one or the boxed one?
Sorry guys, I got a little confused. Which one is the "boxed" one?

Here is a pic from Malaysia:
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... ce/186.jpg

It seems to to be the same as the one above (http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af2 ... 1wri-1.jpg).

Is this the "open" one? Haven't found pics of the boxed one...
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