Monaco GP 2010 - Monte Carlo

[dougskullery]

Any shots of Hamilton's new helmet? i am seeing some red plaid on top in the shots.

I spotted it in the coverage of FP2. Looked like the alternative black and red of a roulette wheel to me. Alas, didn't get a screen capture.

[zgred]

Any shots of Hamilton's new helmet? i am seeing some red plaid on top in the shots.

I spotted it in the coverage of FP2. Looked like the alternative black and red of a roulette wheel to me. Alas, didn't get a screen capture.

This one?

[Sean H]

FP1

1 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:15.927 32
2 5 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:16.000 0.073 27
3 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1:16.016 0.089 28
4 6 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:16.382 0.455 25
5 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:16.517 0.590 30
6 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:16.589 0.662 21
7 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.647 0.720 32
8 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.692 0.765 30
9 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:16.805 0.878 23
10 16 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:16.857 0.930 31
11 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:17.149 1.222 15
12 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:17.331 1.404 28
13 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:17.704 1.777 27
14 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:17.718 1.791 39
15 17 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:17.991 2.064 37
16 10 Nico Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:18.397 2.470 39
17 22 Pedro de la Rosa BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.434 2.507 38
18 23 Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:18.547 2.620 32
19 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:19.527 3.600 24
20 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:19.606 3.679 32
21 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:19.902 3.975 31
22 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:20.566 4.639 18
23 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:21.688 5.761 28
24 20 Karun Chandhok HRT-Cosworth 1:21.853 5.926 6

FP2

1 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:14.904 36
2 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:15.013 0.109 40
3 5 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:15.099 0.195 48
4 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:15.120 0.216 45
5 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:15.143 0.239 38
6 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1:15.192 0.288 39
7 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.249 0.345 32
8 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:15.460 0.556 42
9 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.619 0.715 38
10 6 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:15.620 0.716 28
11 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:15.746 0.842 44
12 16 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:16.276 1.372 46
13 10 Nico Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:16.348 1.444 48
14 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:16.522 1.618 38
15 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:16.528 1.624 42
16 22 Pedro de la Rosa BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:16.599 1.695 36
17 23 Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:16.818 1.914 46
18 17 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:17.023 2.119 28
19 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:18.184 3.280 48
20 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:18.478 3.574 38
21 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:18.667 3.763 13
22 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:18.721 3.817 42
23 20 Karun Chandhok HRT-Cosworth 1:20.313 5.409 36
24 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:22.148 7.244 11


looks like only Rosberg really made any improvement in FP2, should be an interesting Saturday.

[madly]

Kubica's driving is making the difference for renault. He was on top for a good while.
The car also looks good through the slow speed turns.

Kubica looks very fast in Monaco. In FP2 he had absolutely best time on the harder tyres. On super softs he started fast laps when track temperature decreased almost 10 degrees (lack of Sun) and he couldn't improved much his time. Still his bests times on S1 and S2 are from harder compound, and gap to Alonso is 0.288 s. Really impressive.

Speed trap at FP2: 1. Kubica 286 km/h, 2. Petrov 285 km/h, 3. Hamilton 284 km/h
Low DF in R30 or McL F-duct is not effective at this track?

[segedunum]

Low DF in R30 or McL F-duct is not effective at this track?

Probably not as effective. What counts is traction and how fast you can accelerate, not what your top speed is. The McLaren's top speed might well be ultimately higher, but they've run out of straight before they can achieve it.

[ESPImperium]

Heres a intresting GP2 to F1 laptime comparison:

1. Pastor Maldonado Rapax 1m20.476s
2. Sergio Perez Barwa Addax 1m20.917s + 0.441s
3. Christian Vietoris Racing Engineering 1m20.999s + 0.523s
4. Dani Clos Racing Engineering 1m21.272s + 0.796s
5. Davide Valsecchi iSport 1m21.531s + 1.055s
6. Giedo van der Garde Barwa Addax 1m21.540s + 1.064s
7. Jules Bianchi ART 1m22.036s + 1.560s
8. Luiz Razia Rapax 1m22.096s + 1.620s
9. Oliver Turvey iSport 1m22.132s + 1.656s
10. Fabio Leimer Ocean 1m22.164s + 1.688s
11. Alberto Valerio Coloni 1m22.165s + 1.689s
12. Jerome D'Ambrosio DAMS 1m22.288s + 1.812s
13. Michael Herck DPR 1m22.327s + 1.851s
14. Johnny Cecotto Trident 1m22.399s + 1.923s
15. Sam Bird ART 1m22.503s + 2.027s
16. Max Chilton Ocean 1m22.576s + 2.100s
17. Ho-Pin Tung DAMS 1m22.578s + 2.102s
18. Giacomo Ricci DPR 1m22.622s + 2.146s
19. Marcus Ericsson Super Nova 1m23.059s + 2.583s
20. Charles Pic Arden 1m23.246s + 2.770s
21. Josef Kral Super Nova 1m23.657s + 3.181s
22. Rodolfo Gonzalez Arden 1m23.907s + 3.431s
23. Adrian Zaugg Trident 1m24.249s + 3.773s
24. Vlado Arabadjiev Coloni 1m24.770s + 4.294s

In FP1 the drivers in red would have been faster that the Hispania cars, but in FP2, the Hispania is only a tenth faster than the GP2/08 cars that are at the sharp end of that grid.

Heres some figures:

Ferarri (Alonso/Massa) = 0.389%
HRT (Senna/Chandhok) = 7.696%
Barwa Addax (Perez/Van Der Garde) = 6.860%
Racing Engineering (Vietoris/Clos) = 6.982
iSport/Rappax (Maldonado/Valsecchi) = 6.686%

Meaning that the Ferarri is looking like the fastest F1 car this weekend so far, the Hispania is 7.6% behind, but effectivly the "three" teams that are in the top of the GP2 timesheets are all closer to F1 pace arround Monaco than the F110 of the Hispania team.

Just some intresting insight id add to this thread!!!

[jddh1]

bruno senna actually was slower in fp2. strange. things are not looking good for this kid. Karun is upstaging him big time in my opinion.

[sknguy]

I'm a bit confused about the qualifying split that was proposed (but isn't happening). Was the proposal to split only Q1, or to split both the Q1 and Q2 sessions?

[mx_tifoso]

I think it was just for Q1 as that's when all 24 cars are out. Q2 isn't that bad.

[thestig84]

bruno senna actually was slower in fp2. strange. things are not looking good for this kid. Karun is upstaging him big time in my opinion.

Im not sure you can read too much into either driver in that car. They are both doing a tough job. Dont know if your accounting for the fact they have also found out that Bruno's car is carrying a problem that needs parts from dallara to fix. Cant find the exact tweet now but here are a couple that give you the idea.

BSenna: Back in MC but REALLY hard work today. Carrying on from Barcelona but we think we know how to fix it now. An evening with the engineers...

KChand: going to be a long day of thinking of solutions tomorrow... @BSenna had a car problem this afternoon as well so the guys will investigate

[andrew]

I don't really see what some of the drivers are complaining about. There have been more than 24 cars on the track in Monaco before and they managed then. Part of the skill at tracks like Monaco in the old (proper) qualifying session of 12 laps over an hour was getting your timing right so you got a relatively clear lap.

I even read somewhere earlier that Button was complaining about the prospect of a wet race this weekend! The cars have gotten safer and easier to drive over the years and F1 drivers managed 20/30 years ago so what on earth is he gurning about?

[Ray]

The more I watch Formula 1 on TV, the more I realize just what garbage their TV crews are in each country and how badly Bernie needs to have actual professionals do the coverage. The angles are all low, give no sense of speed, and are aimed at nothing but the advertisement banners. Makes me want to puke. I hate F1 TV coverage, it's absolute garbage compared to NASCAR even. On top of all that, the onboards end right where they need to start, corners.

[jon-mullen]

Anybody got any fun predictions for what should be a frenzied quali? New teams in Q2? Who will be the established one to go out in Q1?

I'm thinking with we'll have one or both Lotuses in Q2. Trulli train for the last 3rd of the field, some good scraps between the new boys and a couple old heads behind him. Otherwise, Alguersuari isn't looking great, might go out P17 if everything else is normal.

I'm psyched, actually. I know a lot of people have been complaining about the format *cough* Red Bull *cough* but now there's room for a dark horse pole. Kubica perhaps?

[raymondu999]

I'm looking at Kovalainen on pole and Glock 2nd. Trulli 3rd and Di Grassi 4th. The 2 boys from HRT on a 3rd row lockout

[ringo]

roulette wheel, nice says something about his do or die approach to his driving. He's in need of some luck recently too as well.