European GP 2010 - Valencia

[siskue2005]

I was there, and Schumacher was proved wrong. He isn't allowed to pass.

And if I'm wrong, that's what french TV speakers said.

He was not proved wrong for overtaking in the last pitlane,.....he was proved wrong coz that rule was not applicable in the last lap when the SC was pulled in for aesthetic reason!.... See the Monaco thread for yourself

Anyways from 2010 cars can overtake from the first pit line itself...which is usually before the last corner!
.......go and read the SC rules for yourself

[jason.parker.86]

Webber said that Kovvy braked 100M before he would? But they crashed on the 100M marker?!?!? You telling me Webber brakes at 0M before the corner?

[komninosm]

I was there, and Schumacher was proved wrong. He isn't allowed to pass.

And if I'm wrong, that's what french TV speakers said.

Only because that was the last lap of the race. Otherwise passing is allowed.

[zgred]

Webber said that Kovvy braked 100M before he would? But they crashed on the 100M marker?!?!? You telling me Webber brakes at 0M before the corner?

For sure before 100M mark - he hit Kovalainen somewhere between this pictures.

[Gonner]

I was there, and Schumacher was proved wrong. He isn't allowed to pass.

And if I'm wrong, that's what french TV speakers said.

Only because that was the last lap of the race. Otherwise passing is allowed.

They said it today too. But you're right, I went to check the regs.

And this one is funny.

40.6 The safety car will join the track with its orange lights illuminated and will do so regardless of where the race leader is.


Basically, the FIA has a power to give victory to whoever they deem appropriate.

[jason.parker.86]

Webber said that Kovvy braked 100M before he would? But they crashed on the 100M marker?!?!? You telling me Webber brakes at 0M before the corner?

For sure before 100M mark - he hit Kovalainen somewhere between this pictures.

Ok you can see in the picture they just behind the 100M marker, however you saying that Webber Brakes 25M before the corner?

[raymondu999]

I thought the SC was supposed to let all cars through, until the race leader (P1 boy) was right behind him, THEN not let people through?

[myurr]

He is basically saying why should they back off for the likes of Red Bull. Every car is their to win races and unless their are blue flags why should they make room for a faster car?

Actually DC was saying that the back of the grid teams shouldn't bother racing the A teams and should effectively let them past should an A team car be out of position. Eddie was, in my view correctly, saying balls to that and that if it's for position then they should fight!

[zgred]

I am not - I just wan to give You all background for the discussion for which I have no time :]

[timbo]

Ok you can see in the picture they just behind the 100M marker, however you saying that Webber Brakes 25M before the corner?

Of course Webbo overestimated things, but they're braking around 75 meters there, so Kovi was indeed braking too early.

[Miguel]

Ok you can see in the picture they just behind the 100M marker, however you saying that Webber Brakes 25M before the corner?

Of course Webbo overestimated things, but they're braking around 75 meters there, so Kovi was indeed braking too early.

There is a reason why the Lotus is about 3 seconds slower per lap. Hint: it's not top speed.

[siskue2005]

Alonso > "Manipulated race"
what a whinger
He was crying through out the race .... whining , bitching and complaining about others .
http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/62327 ... ated-race-

[jason.parker.86]

I am not - I just wan to give You all background for the discussion for which I have no time :]

Yeah apprechaite the pics, very good! I dont think one person is to blame, but Webber is a donkey. He always seems to crash, and as one person said earlier, he even crashed on a push bike and broke his leg.

However I am sure Webber said "He braked 100M earlier than me" which would inturn mean that Webber braked at about 25M...

[timbo]

Ok you can see in the picture they just behind the 100M marker, however you saying that Webber Brakes 25M before the corner?

Of course Webbo overestimated things, but they're braking around 75 meters there, so Kovi was indeed braking too early.

There is a reason why the Lotus is about 3 seconds slower per lap. Hint: it's not top speed.

If he has to brake 50 meters earlier than RB, it would be something of 10 seconds per lap.

[timbo]

Alonso > "Manipulated race"
what a whinger
He was crying through out the race .... whining , bitching and complaining about others .
http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/62327 ... ated-race-

SO, if a driver directly in front of him illegally overtakes safety car and looses nothing in result is Alonso supposed to be happy?