Italian GP 2010 - Monza

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One big problem JB won't want to contemplate is the restarts after a safety car. The saftey car line is now before the start finish line. This means cars will be right on his tail at the start of the pit straight with at least a 10kph advantage.

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Depends. If he is leading then stop them on the back straight, take the parabolica full bananas and full downforce, hopefully timing it right so as not to rear-end the departing safety-car.

But if he's behind someone else then you're right, he'll be in heap big trouble, they'll be going past him two at a time. It'll be like the old days and that Honda he had that always got brutally massacred at restarts.

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zeph wrote:Hamilton sandwiched between Webber and Vettel? All taken out in the first corner? It could happen...
I have a bad feeling Horner is gonna be using the old "they braked earlier than usual" exuse again. I think the first corner is gonna be a war zone. Could the prime tires last the whole race if there's an early safety car?

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timbo wrote:
n smikle wrote:1. his car is less affected by dirty air. His downforce will lessen but not as much of a percentage as the full DF cars. So in turns his car will get slightly more difficult but if he can keep it together he should be able to keep a consistent lap time even in dirty air.

2. Other cars cannot follow him closely. That is, the air pressure behind is car is greater.
I don't think 1 gets along with 2 very well=)
And ain't 3 the same as 1?
For 2. I was refering overtaking down a straight. The following cars will have more down-force than usual because of the less turbulent air behind Hamilton's low drag wing, but that won't help them draft him on the straights because they will experience increased drag. It flips over for going through the turns though.

Number 3, I am referring to overtaking as well. Number 1, I was referring to general following through the turns.
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djos wrote:Note the following words from Hamilton:
"We chose to go with the lighter downforce level, which doesn't have the F-duct, and the car is sliding everywhere so I struggled quite a lot on each tyre and I just didn't have the downforce.
Now imagine what a nightmare that will be on full fuel!
We've seen all year that the McLaren mammoth diffuser works best when it rides lower on full fuel
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its going to be a long race tomorrow...

i think hamilton will be in a good position to challenge for a podium finish even without the F-Duct.... the car is fast....
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Just laid my money down to the bookies :mrgreen: Alonso for the victory. If I could bet on the 2n and 3rd spots I'd put money on Macca populating 3rd step.

ie: I'm betting for Alonso-Massa 1-2, or McLaren 2-3.
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well if there was a wild card entry then my bet would be with rosberg... :D

I am surprised to see the redbulls off the pace this time around... don quite know what happened there...

Also sutil seems to be struggling too....
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I'm not quite surprised with the Bulls being off the pace, as they are horrible in a straight line. But I didn't quite expect them to be THAT off the pace..
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who is the steward for this race.... it will be interesting to see how many get penalized for running off the track on the first corner....
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It's Fittipaldi if I'm not mistaken. Turn 1 will be amazing :mrgreen: I don't think anyone will take the runoff as they'd drop right back to the end of the field, as the cars will be too bunched probably for the guy who goes off the road to join in safely.
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djos wrote:
ell66 wrote: i dont think so.
first of all, webber, alonso, massa etc...are closer to hamiltons wing levels than they are buttons. so really that only applis to jenson.
however, there have been no reports of tyre degredation, and with there not being that much to choose between the prime and options, it really wont play much of a role at all.
Note the following words from Hamilton:
"We chose to go with the lighter downforce level, which doesn't have the F-duct, and the car is sliding everywhere so I struggled quite a lot on each tyre and I just didn't have the downforce.
Now imagine what a nightmare that will be on full fuel!
he was sliding everywhere because he was in webbers wake and the mclaren isnt the best in qualy trim either.
and like i sai before, theres not a great difference between the primes and option tires. there wont be that much benefit for running 3-5 laps longer on the soft.

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The pitlane is open....and di grassi is the first one out on his recon lap....
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kobayashi in the pits... don know what happened there...

does any one have a live feed???
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Gearbox problem - source: Rai Uno.