Singapore Grand Prix 2010 - Marina Bay

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My apologies ell66, I misused the quote function. That was directed at komninosm.
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ell66 wrote:
Giblet wrote:
komninosm wrote: What was your opinion in Monza when Hamilton hit Massa like that?

This isn't Monza, and when you call someone a retarded old man you come across as biased. Stating previous races does nothing to forward your opinion.

Hamilton entered that corner on the outside, which is not the racing line. That corner you enter on the inside, clip the apex, and widen to the outside, like almost every corner in racing.
what on earth are you talking about? hamilton was clearl on the racing line, the line webber took was way inside what he normally would be. then factor in that hamilton was easily ahead it was only one persons fauly.
=D> Some people just can't handle the facts.

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Giblet wrote:Ps I am also on a phone. I just take time to spell and correct.

The stewards agree nobody was fully at fault so it is closed.
:wtf: Yes, clearly when the stewards give a decision all conversation stops. :roll:

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Hamilton was at fault in Monza, he put the nose of the car in completely the wrong place.

This time it was a racing incident. If you're going to blame someone, it probably has to be Webber, Hamilton was infront and had the exit. I think the stewards are right, it was a racing incident.

Unfortunately the same thing happened in Australia, that time I felt it was completely Webbers fault.

Anyway, more points lost for Hamilton, he now needs to finish 1st or 2nd in the final 4 races to win the championship, assuming the Redbulls are as strong as we think in the final races, and Alonso doesn't run out of engines.

It's getting close to a 3 way fight between the Redbulls and Alonso.

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wrigs wrote:Kubica shows Hamilton how it's done in that corner.
Or Sutil showed Webber #-o

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So much for the "experts" who talk about race pace.

Well done Alonso, just toying with the field. Pole, Fastest lap and the Win.
"The car is slow in the straights and doesn't work well in the corners." JV

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Komnisom, so you feel that that corner is not entered in the inside when no other cars are in the way? I just want to make sure.

Neither driver was on the racing line for the whole corner, or is that not correct?
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Webber is the lucky man of the race. He was slow all weekend and profited massively from the safety cars.
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best .............................. organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)

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Giblet wrote:
imightbewrong wrote:For gods sake. Behave like grown people, stop calling each other fan boys, this is pathetic behavior.

People who call others fanboi's usually are themselves.

I just call what I see, no allegiances. It's a sport, loving one driver or team is abnormal and strange.
Yeah, right. You just called em 100% biased so what does that action make you now with this statement of yours? :^o [-X

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Please don't argue about arguing.

Our opinions differ, and I am OK with that.

My feeling is this, that only one car can take the true racing line, but since two cars were in the corner side by side, neither was on the true racing line.
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Webber's worst nightmare, Alonso in a equal car to the Red Bull. I'm sorry MW fans, he doesn't have the skill to keep up with Fred without a mechanical advantage.
"The car is slow in the straights and doesn't work well in the corners." JV

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My pleasure Giblet :]

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Do it wrong, do it by yourself by Heikki.


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Congratulations Fernando.

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Sean H wrote:Webber's worst nightmare, Alonso in a equal car to the Red Bull. I'm sorry MW fans, he doesn't have the skill to keep up with Fred without a mechanical advantage.

Keep in mind Webber pitted very early and was on the same set of tires for most of the race.
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deus1066 wrote:Hamilton was at fault in Monza, he put the nose of the car in completely the wrong place.

This time it was a racing incident. If you're going to blame someone, it probably has to be Webber, Hamilton was infront and had the exit. I think the stewards are right, it was a racing incident.

Unfortunately the same thing happened in Australia, that time I felt it was completely Webbers fault.

Anyway, more points lost for Hamilton, he now needs to finish 1st or 2nd in the final 4 races to win the championship, assuming the Redbulls are as strong as we think in the final races, and Alonso doesn't run out of engines.

It's getting close to a 3 way fight between the Redbulls and Alonso.
I don't think Webber should be penalized, nor Hamilton at Monza even if he had survived and Massa hadn't. But it was more Webber's fault now than it was Hamilton's fault then or at least equally. People are just biased who say otherwise or make factually wrong claims about racing line, etc.

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Giblet wrote:
komninosm wrote: What was your opinion in Monza when Hamilton hit Massa like that?

This isn't Monza, and when you call someone a retarded old man you come across as biased. Stating previous races does nothing to forward your opinion.

Hamilton entered that corner on the outside, which is not the racing line. That corner you enter on the inside, clip the apex, and widen to the outside, like almost every corner in racing.
If you were racing which line you would chose to get through the exact same corner?Webber's or Hamilton's?Lets agree that it was a racing incident but its obvious that Hamilton had actually the racing line.Look how drivers take the corner in Qualy and we see that Webber's line is a collision line or fail exit line or wall crash line...His left side was almost over the inside kurb initially.