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Nico Hulkenberg has also been given a 20-second penalty by the stewards for gaining an advantage in turn 7 in the first lap of the Singapore GP. This drops the Williams driver one spot, moving Felipe Massa up to 8th.
I can't believe he took himself out there, just minutes after passing Schumi (I think it was Schumi, right?).andrew wrote: 2. Kobyashi's accident,
Kovi was just interviewed on the BBC. He said that he decided to not go into the pits as he was fearful of the engine exploding. At least on the track there is some protection for any by-standers but in the pits it would be horrific. Pretty darn brave of him to not just stop the car as soon as it was on fire and then jump out and run for it. On the basis of the TV coverage, the actions (or lack of) the trackside marshalls was poor.Giblet wrote:Fire is very scary. I don't think many humans are keen to stay in a car that is clearly completely on fire.747heavy wrote:I will be interessed to see, how much the FIA is to fine Kov/Lotus for this stunt.
That must be the most stupid thing I have seen in a long time. He should just have driven into the pitlane. Seening the fine for Sutil, I think 20000$ are a fair fine.
Very measured and faultless performance from Alonso/Ferrari.
At the end of the day, good effort/drive from Massa as well.
People keep poking fun at Sutil (I have no problem with that, and he sure has his moments), but when it counts he comes up with the goods, which can´t be said of his team mate. IMO Good and level headed race by him.
Webber vs. Hamilton was a racing incident IMO, nevertheless Webber can be happy that he got away with that one, without a drive throught. If he wins the WDC this year, he should send a Christmas card to the stewards.
Just compare to the Vettel/Button incident in Spa, with a similar outcome for the McL driver.
Webber is a lucky fellow this year, let´s see how long his deal with Karma lasts.
I´m a bit surprised that McLaren did not mirrored Webbers strategy with Button, just to cover all the bases.
Now they where outrun by RBR for pure speed and outsmarted for strategy as well.
They are in the mix, but not special, let´s see how it develops from here.
Interesting strategy from Kubica/Renault, and a very good/determinated drive from Kubica in the last laps. But Renault seems to stagnate a bit as far as outright car speed goes since Spa.
Yes, now they have to wait behind the SC in the track position they're in. Silly rule if you ask me.komninosm wrote:I still don't get why they didn't unlap themselves in the SC period. Has that rule been removed?
Agreed, pretty poor by the marshals to just hand Kovi a fire extinguisher and leave him to his own devices!andrew wrote: Kovi was just interviewed on the BBC. He said that he decided to not go into the pits as he was fearful of the engine exploding. At least on the track there is some protection for any by-standers but in the pits it would be horrific. Pretty darn brave of him to not just stop the car as soon as it was on fire and then jump out and run for it. On the basis of the TV coverage, the actions (or lack of) the trackside marshalls was poor.
That was really ballsy, wasn't it. It looked just fantastic though. We now know Kovi has a post driving career lined up.andrew wrote:Kovi was just interviewed on the BBC. He said that he decided to not go into the pits as he was fearful of the engine exploding. At least on the track there is some protection for any by-standers but in the pits it would be horrific. Pretty darn brave of him to not just stop the car as soon as it was on fire and then jump out and run for it. On the basis of the TV coverage, the actions (or lack of) the trackside marshalls was poor.
The BBC didn't pick up Koby's inital prang but I did see Senna hit his car. As you say inexperience and there did not appear to be any flags being waved plus Senna would not have seen Koby's car until the last second, especially as Senna would have been concentrating on not being overtaken. Just one of those things I guess.jddh1 wrote:I can't believe he took himself out there, just minutes after passing Schumi (I think it was Schumi, right?).andrew wrote: 2. Kobyashi's accident,
What was worse, was the HRT just slamming into him. Inexperience I guess but I think it was more that the marshals where not waving those yellows in time so he thought the track was clear.
It gets worse. I think he had to get the fire extingusher from Williams!djos wrote:Agreed, pretty poor by the marshals to just hand Kovi a fire extinguisher and leave him to his own devices!andrew wrote: Kovi was just interviewed on the BBC. He said that he decided to not go into the pits as he was fearful of the engine exploding. At least on the track there is some protection for any by-standers but in the pits it would be horrific. Pretty darn brave of him to not just stop the car as soon as it was on fire and then jump out and run for it. On the basis of the TV coverage, the actions (or lack of) the trackside marshalls was poor.
I think Kova was told not to enter the pits cause they feared he might cause a fire there. At least that's what popped into my mind when i saw him going so slow at the pit entry and choosing to stay on track. We'll see.747heavy wrote:I will be interessed to see, how much the FIA is to fine Kov/Lotus for this stunt.
That must be the most stupid thing I have seen in a long time. He should just have driven into the pitlane. Seening the fine for Sutil, I think 20000$ are a fair fine.
Very measured and faultless performance from Alonso/Ferrari.
At the end of the day, good effort/drive from Massa as well.
People keep poking fun at Sutil (I have no problem with that, and he sure has his moments), but when it counts he comes up with the goods, which can´t be said of his team mate. IMO Good and level headed race by him.
Webber vs. Hamilton was a racing incident IMO, nevertheless Webber can be happy that he got away with that one, without a drive throught. If he wins the WDC this year, he should send a Christmas card to the stewards.
Just compare to the Vettel/Button incident in Spa, with a similar outcome for the McL driver.
Webber is a lucky fellow this year, let´s see how long his deal with Karma lasts.
I´m a bit surprised that McLaren did not mirrored Webbers strategy with Button, just to cover all the bases.
Now they where outrun by RBR for pure speed and outsmarted for strategy as well.
They are in the mix, but not special, let´s see how it develops from here.
Interesting strategy from Kubica/Renault, and a very good/determinated drive from Kubica in the last laps. But Renault seems to stagnate a bit as far as outright car speed goes since Spa.
You wanted him to drive a fireball into the pitlane rather than leave it in just about the safest place on the track for a fireball?747heavy wrote:I will be interessed to see, how much the FIA is to fine Kov/Lotus for this stunt.
That must be the most stupid thing I have seen in a long time. He should just have driven into the pitlane. Seening the fine for Sutil, I think 20000$ are a fair fine.
No I was saying Bob was not 90% ahead like it was being claimed. Also I said that it looked like Webber lost his braking and that also moved him further along. I said we should look at video footage of earlier in the corner entry and even before.Mysticf1 wrote:komninosm
so your saying the fact that kubica is further in front earlier in the corner than hamilton was later in the corner is justification for it being webbers error?
jddh1 wrote:That was really ballsy, wasn't it. It looked just fantastic though. We now know Kovi has a post driving career lined up.andrew wrote:Kovi was just interviewed on the BBC. He said that he decided to not go into the pits as he was fearful of the engine exploding. At least on the track there is some protection for any by-standers but in the pits it would be horrific. Pretty darn brave of him to not just stop the car as soon as it was on fire and then jump out and run for it. On the basis of the TV coverage, the actions (or lack of) the trackside marshalls was poor.
Exactly my thoughts. It looked insane but fire in the pitlane would have been much more disastrous.Just_a_fan wrote: You wanted him to drive a fireball into the pitlane rather than leave it in just about the safest place on the track for a fireball?
He did mention a major vibration after the contact so he's very lucky to have made it home and have held on to 3rd place.richard_leeds wrote:Just heard a comment on the TV about Webber's tyre barely on the rim after his bash with Hamilton. Anyone got a pic?