Korean GP 2010 - Yeongam

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For those saying that Vettel killed his engine. That is not possible with a modern day F1 engine. The engine management system will NOT allow a driver to kill the engine. It goes up in smoke on it's own.

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raymondu999
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komninosm wrote: Grand Chelem?
Isn't Grand Slam a tennis thing?
Well... there's a Formula 1 Grand Chelem as well. Alonso got one in Singapore, actually. It's when a driver is never headed for the lead (pole-to-flag), starts from pole position, leads to the win, AND takes fastest lap. Basically he fills every single statistic there is about the race.
Rob01 wrote:For those saying that Vettel killed his engine. That is not possible with a modern day F1 engine. The engine management system will NOT allow a driver to kill the engine. It goes up in smoke on it's own.
I guess what people meant is that Vettel pushed his engine too hard, setting an over-aggressive map of some sort which his engine couldn't take for such a prolonged period
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andrew
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Not a bad race, but still undecided on the track. I think the wet has masked the true quality of the track but it was still an entertaining race.

Vettel's retirement was disappointing after driving a faultless race but I guess when an engine is going to go it's going to go and there is not much a driver can do. Unless Vettel massivly over revved his engine on a down-change I doubt the engine blow-up can be his fault.

Webbers demise was his own fault and it's good to see him admit that. Rosberg was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Sutil must have left all sense at home. He was really just a danger out there.

Good result for Schumacher with a couple good passes.

And best of all, there was no controversay!

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The interesting thing this year has been that momentum seems to come in twos. Lewis had Turkey+Canada, Mark had Spain+Monaco, JB had China+Australia, Alonso had Singapore and Italy. I guess Seb should have had Singapore+Suzuka, or Suzuka+Korea. Since Monza he's been a real joy to watch, and you can sense the new inner confidence within him. I don't think his championship run is over yet. Not by a long shot. He got a devastating blow by his engine going boom today... so he's got quite a bit of spare momentum in the tank :mrgreen:
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murtoidf1
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heres my write up on the race... its opinionated but thats always more fun..

http://khurtizz.tumblr.com/post/1390170 ... ix-yeongam

tell me what you think! its a bit controversial

murtoidf1
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I liek vettel more now. he is much better than webber

why do newey cars ALWAYS break

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Well this was certainly an interesting race.

Webber - Clearly he wanted to start the race behind the safety car since he is rubbish at starting and did not want to fend of Alonso. Mark again tried to driver faster than his talent allows and ran wide without backing off the throttle on the slippery paint. Webber tried to match his team mates pace and paid the price. Webber once again is very lucky in that SV engine expired, had SV won the race I am sure that RB would have made it clear they were supporting SV for the title. At this point I think RB have no choice but to support MW.

Vettel- Drove a class act, proving the kid has talent however lady luck seems to hate on him. It looks like reliability is going steal this WDC away from him. Had he driven Webber's equipment all year I am sure SV would be WDC by now (yes thats a massive what if speculation, but the point is that vettel has now had at least four races ruined by reliability).

Alonso- Kept his head cool and did what he needed to do. He also managed those tires quite well.

LH- I loved his antics about getting the race going. We all know who is not scared in the wet. He also put JB in his place.

MS- I think we saw a twinkle today that MS still has it. Perhaps this is the start of his real comeback.

JB- Wow, you are off the pace all weekend and start to use the same old excuses. JB just admit it, you are SLOW. Once again we see JB get passed in the opening stages of a race so he makes the call to change tires to see if blind luck will pay off like it did in his two other wins this year. It was a stupid call seeing that at that point in time people on full wets were struggling and more rain was fore-casted. He got stuck on inters way to soon and I am sure his tires were shot before he could think about making his way back through the field. Not only was it a miserable drive but I feel that it takes credit away from his call in aus gp to change to dry tries. He only did so since LH already went by him so he took and gamble and won on blind luck.

andrew
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Fastest Lap Times:

Pos. Driver Team Lap/Time Gap

01. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari 42 1:50.257
02. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull-Renault 44 1:50.375 +0.118
03. Lewis Hamilton - McLaren-Mercedes 42 1:50.430 +0.173
04. Felipe Massa - Ferrari 44 1:50.502 +0.245
05. Vitantonio Liuzzi - Force India Mercedes 45 1:51.371 +1.114
06. Rubens Barrichello - Williams Cosworth 45 1:51.564 +1.307
07. Robert Kubica - Renault 45 1:51.604 +1.347
08. Michael Schumacher - Mercedes GP 43 1:51.835 +1.578
09. Jaime Alguersuari - Toro Rosso Ferrari 43 1:51.962 +1.705
10. Nico Hulkenberg - Williams Cosworth 43 1:51.982 +1.725
11. Jenson Button - McLaren-Mercedes 42 1:52.193 +1.936
12. Adrian Sutil - Force India Mercedes 40 1:52.601 +2.344
13. Vitaly Petrov - Renault 39 1:53.031 +2.774
14. Kamui Kobayashi - Sauber Ferrari 42 1:53.086 +2.829
15. Nick Heidfeld - Sauber Ferrari 42 1:53.263 +3.006
16. Heikki Kovalainen - Lotus Cosworth 43 1:55.018 +4.761
17. Sebastien Buemi - Toro Rosso Ferrari 27 1:56.768 +6.511
18. Timo Glock - Virgin Cosworth 29 1:58.102 +7.845
19. Sakon Yamamoto - HRT F1 Cosworth 36 1:58.313 +8.056
20. Bruno Senna - HRT F1 Cosworth 30 1:59.290 +9.033
21. Mark Webber - Red Bull-Renault 18 2:00.025 +9.768
22. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP 18 2:00.652 +10.395
23. Lucas di Grassi - Virgin Cosworth 25 2:02.635 +12.378
24. Jarno Trulli - Lotus Cosworth 20 2:05.161 +14.904

Some details on Vettels engine here:
http://www.f1complete.com/2010-news/186 ... s-red-bull
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Apex wrote:I think it's poor form how Vet tried to have the race stopped sooner, due to 'bad light' while he was setting faster and faster laps.
It may have escaped your attention but Red Bull and McLaren were all playing the game of influencing the stewards and race control to further their chances. One should not blame blame a single driver for something that all the front runners did equally.
Apex wrote:I'd put money on it that they suspected the engine would fail immanently.

You would have lost that money. The right bank engine failure came totally out of the blue. So Seb could not know about this five laps before it expired.
Christian Horner wrote:Sebastian had the cruellest of luck – ten laps to go and out of the blue he had an engine failure.
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Pup
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Because one can always take Horner at his word. :roll:

andrew
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Is that Chrstian "our car doesn't flex" Horner?

djones
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I was wanting Vettel to win... Up until he was being caught and then wanted the race stopping for light reasons.

His engine blew and that was the most deserving retierment I have ever seen. I was SO glad when it blew as it served him right!!!

andrew
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Several drivers it seems wanted the race stopped. In fact there was only one driver I can recall during the post-race interviews who seemed to find the idea laughable about the possibility of the race stopping early but his mentality over this issue proved to me once again that he is an immature idiot who still feels the need to act up to the camereas.

The BBC comentary made the point that the thickness off the drivers helmet, the shrouding around the cockpit and the trackside structures made things seem darker for the driver in the car than they really were. Stopping the race would have been annoying but completely understandable.
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mach11
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yep.. even i noticed the same thing...

Once the race had restarted... only hamilton was keen to start the race... the leaders were content to stay behind the safety car or even suspend the race...

But korea has spiced things even further....

Btw... Any pics of the metal from vettel's car flying out once his engine blew up???... (that is what is being reported)...
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andrew wrote:Several drivers it seems wanted the race stopped. In fact there was only one driver I can recall during the post-race interviews who laughed about the possibility of the race stopping early but his mentality over this issue proved to me once again that he is an immature idiot who still feels the need to act up to the camereas.

The BBC comentary made the point that the thickness off the drivers helmet, the shrouding around the cockpit and the trackside structures made things seem darker for the driver in the car than they really were. Stopping the race would have been annoying but completely understandable.
Who was it laughing in the post race interveiws??.....i dint catch that part unfortunatly.