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As usual, I'm afraid our chief moderator is correct. The powers to be within the FIA has all gone politically correct on us.Tomba wrote:I guess this will make its entry into the sport sometime, there is hardly any way to avoid it I believe. F1 rule makers are convinced that this sport should be injury-free, so they would do whatever they deem necessary.
On a personal note, I don't think we need it. As for the spring incident with Massa, better helmets and the recently tested stronger visors should here quite a way there. Still that wouldn't solve Surtees' fatality, with a wheel bumping on the top of his head, breaking his neck. I really have no idea how to resolve this safely, apart from this windscreen idea. The problem is always that nothing "static" much can be placed above the driver's head, as he needs to be able to leave the car quickly.
And as for that HUD, that looks to me like a gadget to lure the big public into accepting such a windscreen. Nothing more, nothing less.
Merry Christmas!
You are correct. I was thinking of the Corvette, and the Bentley LMP1 program's wiper woes, and incorrectly assumed that the LMP1's used a similar solution as the GT cars (i.e. move the wipers out of the airflow).Formula None wrote:I'm not sure what your mean. Every closed LMP I've seen has the wiper directly mounted to (or through) the windshield. There's not much "hood" to speak of on these things to tuck a wiper into:
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Sadly, I again remind that safety is not a newfound concern of the sport. And - once again - I'm compelled to point out that these problems were addressed with a remarkably elegant, open-wheel solution over 40 years ago...xpensive wrote:As usual, I'm afraid our chief moderator is correct. The powers to be within the FIA has all gone politically correct on us.Tomba wrote:I guess this will make its entry into the sport sometime, there is hardly any way to avoid it I believe. F1 rule makers are convinced that this sport should be injury-free, so they would do whatever they deem necessary.
On a personal note, I don't think we need it. As for the spring incident with Massa, better helmets and the recently tested stronger visors should here quite a way there. Still that wouldn't solve Surtees' fatality, with a wheel bumping on the top of his head, breaking his neck. I really have no idea how to resolve this safely, apart from this windscreen idea. The problem is always that nothing "static" much can be placed above the driver's head, as he needs to be able to leave the car quickly.
And as for that HUD, that looks to me like a gadget to lure the big public into accepting such a windscreen. Nothing more, nothing less.
Merry Christmas!
Long gone are the days when Jacky Ickx and Pedro Rodriguez left the GPDA, as they wanted to keep racing on the old Spa.
Relatively bad translation but the gist seems to be that the plan for a wind shield was dropped and the raised cockpit sides will be improved to protect the helmet. Storm in a tea cup as usual.Source
F1 - FIA: Abandonment of the windshield
Posted January 2, 2011 in the category: News , Technical Analysis
We talked about it last week and the debate was very important on this blog ( see here ). The FIA was considering the idea of a Plexiglas windshield on cars to protect drivers from a frontal impact.
However, according to information from the Italian site 422Race.com FIA dropped the idea to focus on security around the driver and the passenger with a new protection system to withstand 600kg of pressure. A test method is under development.
In principle, the idea for now is to build on the side of the cockpit two systems forms prismatic to help move a car from the top to protect the driver's helmet. A solution that could have aerodynamic constraints. One change that could occur for cars 2011.
The regulation states that, for security reasons, the FIA has the right to authorize changing the rules through the unanimous consent of the teams. However, even if FOTA seems to be aware of this change, there is no indication that a change from 2011 is under consideration. Maybe for 2012.
A 3 page thread counts as a tempest in a teapot in white blue country? Vishnu help us if you ever became a mod. We'd all be banned and the the forum would consist only of consecutive lengthy WB posts reposting what we all read on Scarbs' blog. I doubt you can find many posts where the members thought this was a certainty or became unduly upset. Just speculation is all. Closed cockpits are only a matter of time, IMO, and there's no harm in speaking of its implications. The aero, driver comfort and safety benefits are too obvious. Besides, too many people are playing GT5 and getting ideas...WhiteBlue wrote:Storm in a tea cup as usual.
