Ferrari 150° Italia

[godlameroso]

I noticed the diffuser although shallower is in turn wider, I wonder if the philosophy of the car is to turn the vehicle itself irrespective of wings into a diffuser. The high nose for maximum airflow, the heavy rake in the main tub, the way the beam wing is separated from the crash structure. Not to mention the new front wing which I imagine will follow from the 3 dive plane philosophy as well, but evolved in order to channel air under and over as well as through the middle of the vehicle.

[bar555]

my analysis on F150
http://formula1techandart.wordpress.com ... -the-past/

[King Six]

my analysis on F150
http://formula1techandart.wordpress.com ... -the-past/

Nice work!

Didn't know you resumed all of this *thumbs up*

[kenji8]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/01/29/f ... in-action/

[N12ck]

Just curious but why does the Ferrari f150 have a notch out of the upper element on the rear wing, I know cars in the past have had it, but why?

Also why the fatter air intake?

[ringo]

They have a notch becuase redbull had it in 2009.

The flow under a wing is least attached at the centre. As the chord increases the more separation.
The notch is an attempt to reduce the chord length to keep the flow attached on the back. Maybe some flow mixing occurs as well.

[N12ck]

thanks for the quick reply, okay thankyou, that makes more sense, but it is strikingly similar to the f10,

[donskar]

my analysis on F150
http://formula1techandart.wordpress.com ... -the-past/

My benighted employer's IT trolls don't allow me to see the site linked to (I think the "technical" in F1technical.net fools them), but I WILL check it from home. bar555, your posts are always very valuable. Thanks!

[lolshark]

good vid of testing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJrOvAPNOzU
dont know if is me but the rear wing looks like it moves in the last seconds

[Pandamasque]

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news ... the-track/

[Goran2812]

WOW

[forty-two]

I captured it from this video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Jw9W3C ... r_embedded[/youtube]

Oh, cool.

I'm a little surprised they're being so open, so early on.

[forty-two]

The idea was that the stays might alow downward flex at speed which would place the floor nearer the ground. The nearer the ground the better it works.

Granted, but a cable stay only normally works in tension, so I suspect that there might be scope for the floor to flex upwards, but not perhaps downwards. While I agree that allowing the floor to move closer to the floor might be beneficial, I can think of a couple of wierd ways in which allowing it to move upwards might help. For example, remember the bendy bib of the RB6 which allowed them to get away with running super low without wearing the plank, well what if Ferrari have found a similar trick?

Unless of course the Scuderia have developed elasticated steel cable. If so, I want some!

An upward flexing floor does't help in the way that the bib did because it's already 60mm above the ground and can't get any nearer than that - unless the stays allow it to flex downwards.

And all steel cables are elasticated if you can pull hard enough on them...

All good points.

It just occurred to me (and I'm not saying that this is what they're doing, it's just an idea!) that if say the anchor points on the gearbox, or indeed the floor were some trick device, there is scope to allow them to flex allowing the floor in that area to flex downwards (but only a certain amount), allowing them to have their diffusor a few mm from the ground, while still transferring the proper downwards load to the wheels. I was thinking something like mounting the anchors onto a flexible mount which could only be stretched so far to prevent grounding.

I imagine that if they did do this, the other teams would catch on, but remember last season how long it took the FIA to implement "tougher" floor tests, nothing of course to do with MrE's public backing of Herr Vettel of course!

[forty-two]

A couple of things just occurred to me:

1. Aside from publicity (granted this is a big one!) why would Ferrari show their cards so early

2. Why not show the new FW, is it something very special, or is it just not ready?

3. With this car being apparently so similar to the F10, what aces have they got up their sleeves?

Ok, it was three and not a couple, but still!

[scotty86]

A couple of things just occurred to me:

1. Aside from publicity (granted this is a big one!) why would Ferrari show their cards so early

2. Why not show the new FW, is it something very special, or is it just not ready?

3. With this car being apparently so similar to the F10, what aces have they got up their sleeves?

Ok, it was three and not a couple, but still!

1: Marketing reasons.

2: That is pretty standard for F1 recently, all will be revealed at testing.

3: It's similar because it's basically an evolution of their old car...

As for aces up sleeves, i think it would be hard for anyone here to actually say if/what they have in modern times, no doubt it'd be trick aero parts (or arguably this suspension arrangement) and i seriously doubt anyone here is that adept or in the loop with F1 aerodynamics to say exactly what...!