Red Bull's qualifying advantage

[marcush.]

it´s not an early applying of DRS.They run the flap open though those parts of the track where you need good downforce!
If the Wing sheds 10 or more % of vertical force at that sort of speed with the open slot it´s more than obvious that they still have more downforce than the rest of the field in this area.BUT with that approach you will also have ALOT more downforce at slower speeds ,as you close the DRS and find downforce ...the real benefit is therefore in those areas where they don´t use the DRS.As they can carry massive low speed downforce.
They just strike a different compromise compared to the opposition and opt for a higher total drag and a high speed balance shift towards more rear end downforce.
Considering they cannot use as much exhaust blowing as in Qualy ,this added downforcee will help their race balance maybe at the cost of top speed.
the KERS is just there to avoid losing out at the start as this concept is not designed to enhance overtaking .

[bill shoe]

Lewis Hamilton comments on exhaust-blown diffusers for qualifying. He confirms qualy settings can't be used for the race (presumably due to heat or fuel consumption issues). He confirms the extra qualy exhaust adds rear downforce, and the teams add corresponding front downforce via front wing adjustment (the only adjustment allowed after qualy starts). He says the RB advantage in qualy is due to RB using blown downforce better than anyone else.

“Qualifying is probably the most exciting part of the weekend, apart from the start of the race,” he said. “Qualifying is very cool, especially nowadays when they switch. … Before we’d just go to the fastest engine setting, now you go for the fastest, most powerful downforce setting from the engine, which is very, very neat. You put lots of front wing in, you also have loads more grip, and you can throw the car around like crazy. I can’t wait to get into qualifying.”

This was from Adam Cooper on Speedtv.com
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/ ... e-settings

[hardingfv32]

Adjusting the front wing before the start solves my balance concerns between qualifying and race.

Brian

[PlatinumZealot]

Still doesn't explain the whole story.

Two things are unique to qually:

1. Complete Use of DRS

2. Engine settings for Max downforce.


NOTICE:- DRS use in limited in Monaco.... This is a nice controlled situation to see how RedBull is affected. My estimation is that RedBull get their advantage when DRS is used over a major portion of the lap.

[hardingfv32]

Anyone can have the same engine settings. It is not a technical obstacle.

Is there something unique about RB's EBD layout that can not be readily copied by the other teams. Yes, it is only part of a total system.... For this discussion make it responsible for the vast majority of the EBD performance.

Brian

[alelanza]

I found this interesting/confusing:

Q: (Edd Straw – Autosport) Adrian, there was a lot of talk in Spain about the legality of the exhaust-blown diffuser operating while the driver is off the throttle. What’s your interpretation of the legality of that, specifically relating to article 3.15 and could you explain your reasoning behind the position you take on this technology?

AN: Well, I think the key to 3.15 is that it talks about ‘driver over-run then the throttle should be closed’ then in brackets ‘idle speed’ so it seems to be implying that the throttle should be closed at idle, which it clearly is. What the throttle does on over-run at other times is not clear in the regulations, not as expected. Certainly, in the case of Renault, then they open the throttle to full open on the over-run for exhaust valve cooling, and that’s part of the reliability of the engine. It has been signed off through the years for dyno testing and for them to change that would be quite a big issue, because the engine’s not proven that it would be reliable if the throttle remained closed in that situation. Obviously if other people are going further and perhaps firing the engine on the over-run then clearly exhaust valve cooling is not part of that and that would be something that presumably they would need to explain to keep Charlie (Whiting, technical delegate) happy.

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/Mona ... 23947.html