Canadian GP 2011 - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve

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Morteza AMG wrote:Why red flag? It is so boring to watch a race like this. We've had races with worse conditions and the race went on. What's wrong with this stewards? I totally agree with you Wesley. It seems there is not going to be a new rain master with these red flags. We will have dry masters instead!
Look back at the picture of the kerbs being under water, then you'll understand.

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flynfrog
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flynfrog wrote:[quote="myurr"
beelsebob wrote:So... red flag. My view on the incidents of importance so far...

1. HAM vs WEB... pure racing incident, WEB gave room, HAM tried to use it, understeered a bit wide.
2. HAM vs MSC... MSC moved twice and pushed HAM onto the grass – all MSC's fault.
3. HAM vs BUT... HAM was being a bit optimistic, but BUT shouldn't have moved over, probably accidental. Bottom line – while you don't expect drivers to just wave people past, you also don't expect them to push them off the road. The rules agree here "Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position, deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted." – I don't think it was deliberate here, but I just wanted to point out to the "you can't just let them through" crowd – you also can't push them off the track.
Wow your analysis is stunning even for a guy with a Yellow helmet in your avatar
And you sir are a blatant fanboy. Care to explain exactly where beelsebob's analysis is so comical?[/quote]
I think you will find that I have no favorite driver and that the exact opposite is true[/quote]

you want my take.

1. Hammy pushed wide in the wet no big deal --- happens in the rain
2. MSC lost the front pushed hamilton wide see above.
3. Hamilton pulls the prost/senna/msc and refuses to lift off button probably never saw him.

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Prime driver is Kimui in my opinion now. Red flag was right decision, id recon race will start at around 13:30 local time.

Mercedes have the best car cover in a Garden Gondola.

Not sure if we will get the full 70 laps on the board.

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I hope the farce we are currently witnessing will shut up some of the F1 bigots who say NASCAR drivers are (fill in the blank with your favorite insult) because they do not race in the rain. And I do NOT like NASCAR and never watch more than a few minutes at a time.
Enzo Ferrari was a great man. But he was not a good man. -- Phil Hill

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The track is a swimming pool

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Pierce89
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ParanoiD wrote:No mystery in F1 strategy, just do the opposite of Ferrari!!
LOL
sad but true. Alonso screwed his own strategy though, as much as it pains me to admit it.
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“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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Well I think the red flag is fair enough, bvut starting nder the safety car and safety car when starting the rain? No way. I really do not enjoy F1 anymore, I dont know if there is any faker racing in the world
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Sometimes when I need go faster, I slow down, and my lap times increase. Lewis needs to listen to what DC just said.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

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wesley123 wrote:Well I think the red flag is fair enough, bvut starting nder the safety car and safety car when starting the rain? No way. I really do not enjoy F1 anymore, I dont know if there is any faker racing in the world
Now that is well-said.
"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."~William Shakespeare

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ringo
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spinmastermic wrote:Can they work on Lewis's car?? lol
He said it was just the tyre but the engineers said otherwise. #-o

At least drive into the pits with it, fix it, then wait for a SC or red flag.

Oh well, i'm hoping for a massa win. :lol:
For Sure!!

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flynfrog wrote:
myurr wrote:And you sir are a blatant fanboy. Care to explain exactly where beelsebob's analysis is so comical?
I think you will find that I have no favorite driver and that the exact opposite is true
So you care to only answer the first half the question, whereas if you'd addressed the second half it would have automatically answered the first.

Interesting stat - after the first lap, 10% of all overtakes in F1 this year have been made by Hamilton. He's had two unlucky races where arguably some moves were too optimistic and clumsy, but in others drivers haven't been giving him room when he's managed to get alongside. But that doesn't take away from the other 29 or so overtakes that he's successfully completed, which is way more than any of the other drivers.

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wesley123 wrote:Well I think the red flag is fair enough, bvut starting nder the safety car and safety car when starting the rain? No way. I really do not enjoy F1 anymore, I dont know if there is any faker racing in the world
No one forces you to watch
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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donskar wrote:I hope the farce we are currently witnessing will shut up some of the F1 bigots who say NASCAR drivers are (fill in the blank with your favorite insult) because they do not race in the rain. And I do NOT like NASCAR and never watch more than a few minutes at a time.
why is this a farce? of course we are all pissed because we don't see the action right now we are craving for... but if you let them race under these conditions you ll witness havoc, mayhem and carnage alltogether!
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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Mr Alcatraz
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Montoya P2 :shock:
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spacer wrote:Kamui drifting his car out of the last chicane... somehow I keep loving his driving style, wish he was more up the grid from time to time.
I'm just gonna quote my own post-qualy comment. Hoping kob can force seb into some good-old rain fight