Canadian GP 2011 - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve

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For the Hamilton fans, 3x contact in 7 laps (3 or 4 of which were under the safety car).

Get a clue.

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FLC wrote:
ringo wrote: Button saw him from exiting the turn. I think Button, normally a weak deffender, just tried too hard to be a tough guy.
He moved twice, and ended his teammates race.

There is no excuse here. Shumacher (as good example, for a second race in a row!)
Did the proper thing, though it was more agressive.
Button knew he was there and he juked out of anger that he would be overtaken twice.
That was not a double move. They exit on the right from the last corner and then go far left to take the fast corner on the start-finish straight. it's the racing line. Button was in front and had full right of using it, Hamilton was again, or as usual, too optimistic.

I agree. Button just make one defensive move abd LH was way too optimistic. again.

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They should mandate a forward facing red light on the camera tower for bad weather.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

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zeph wrote:For the Hamilton fans, 3x contact in 7 laps (3 or 4 of which were under the safety car).

Get a clue.
People are allowed to have a different view.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

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flynfrog wrote:it was on FOX. Had Shu and Nico sitting at a restaurant and the waiter brings over a redbull.
Is that the one that has Hakkinen in it? It was linked to somewhere in the forum a while ago.

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beelsebob wrote:
flynfrog wrote:
spinmastermic wrote:And how many championships did DC win?
how many did hammy throw away with stupid moves?
Just to pack up spinmaster... until this year, DC was actually the single most successful british driver in terms of points in F1... He had plenty of opportunity, just never put it together into a full championship.
True, but when has going slow been a good championship strategy? Hamilton is great to watch. Looking forward to Kobi taking on Seb

internetf1fan
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Why are they investigating all the racing incidents?

Let's compare this to 2010. How many times did Webber ruin Lewis's race? Where was the investigation when two Red Bulls collided in Turkey?

I am fed up with these biased stewards.

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andrew wrote:
flynfrog wrote:it was on FOX. Had Shu and Nico sitting at a restaurant and the waiter brings over a redbull.
Is that the one that has Hakkinen in it? It was linked to somewhere in the forum a while ago.
thats it Ive been watching torrents of the races with no commercials

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Redmondo wrote:Does anyone consider the possibility that Button was just taking the racing line and Hamilton got in the way? I saw the incident and every analysis I read about it says that Button squeezed Hamilton. I'm not sure it was intentional. If you listen to Button's radio he sounded like Hamilton scared the hell out of him.
Given the spray, I doubt Button saw him.

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FrukostScones wrote:
donskar wrote:I hope the farce we are currently witnessing will shut up some of the F1 bigots who say NASCAR drivers are (fill in the blank with your favorite insult) because they do not race in the rain. And I do NOT like NASCAR and never watch more than a few minutes at a time.
why is this a farce? of course we are all pissed because we don't see the action right now we are craving for... but if you let them race under these conditions you ll witness havoc, mayhem and carnage alltogether!
Why a farce?
The ultimate race cars on earth can not run in the rain.
The sanctioning body demands that tires wear out quickly to make racing more interesting :wtf: but they don't require those tires to run in extremely wet conditions.
F1 tracks must meet all sorts of stringent standards -- palatial pits and media rooms are required, but not drainage.
Got to feel sorry for the Austin organizers and investors -- this race is getting very wide coverage in the US. "Ogre" on SyFy is good for a chuckle.
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Giblet
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It's not about going slow, it's about not overdriving. Its just an expression, don't take it literally.

This is why people aren't always breaking legs in stage shows.
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myurr
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flynfrog wrote: He wasn't even past Buttons rear tire it was a dumb move plain and simple.
Simply not true. Watch very carefully and you'll see that both cars exit the corner, follow the same line, and then Jenson makes a move left at the same time as Lewis chose to come out of the slip stream to the left. Jenson then squeezed him too much.

The replay the BBC just showed that Jenson was watching Hamilton in his mirrors when he squeezed Hamilton, so he knew he was there and tried to bully him out of the way. Presumably he didn't want to be overtaken a second time by Lewis in just one race, so go with all the other overtakes he's made on him this year.

Finally it's also clear that he was beyond Jensons rear tyre, despite what you claim, as his front tyre makes contact with the sidepod.

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zeph wrote:For the Hamilton fans, 3x contact in 7 laps (3 or 4 of which were under the safety car).

Get a clue.
You're right – trying to overtake 3 times in 7 laps is way too much. F1 drivers shouldn't do that.

Edit: Sorry, scratch that, trying to overtake 7 times in 7 laps, 3 being successful, 1 being unsuccessful, 2 being driven off the track and 1 having a racing incident.
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andrew wrote:Zgred - please say you have a shot of the drains being pumped. That is a first for me seeing that at a race in nearly 20 years of paying attention to F1!
Image

Only this guy, I was too amazed to make snapshots :]

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internetf1fan wrote:Why are they investigating all the racing incidents?

Let's compare this to 2010. How many times did Webber ruin Lewis's race? Where was the investigation when two Red Bulls collided in Turkey?

I am fed up with these biased stewards.
hamilton/webber incident was racing acc. to fia, second but/ham incident will be investigated after the race, maybe they decide that it was racing, what definitely was not ok that ham contiunued with broken susp. and caused thes sc, he will get a penalty for this
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.