Canadian GP 2011 - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve

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andrew wrote:
Redmondo wrote:Does anyone consider the possibility that Button was just taking the racing line and Hamilton got in the way? I saw the incident and every analysis I read about it says that Button squeezed Hamilton. I'm not sure it was intentional. If you listen to Button's radio he sounded like Hamilton scared the hell out of him.
Given the spray, I doubt Button saw him.
He looked in his mirrors twice

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spinmastermic wrote:
True, but when has going slow been a good championship strategy? Hamilton is great to watch. Looking forward to Kobi taking on Seb
since when has throwing the car away been a good idea?


I agree I would like to see Kobi in the rain he makes that sauber look good.

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zeph wrote:For the Hamilton fans, 3x contact in 7 laps (3 or 4 of which were under the safety car).

Get a clue.
For the clueless haters - Brundle just reviewed all three incidents with DC, with the overall view that the incident with Webber was a driving incident, Schumacher was at fault for squeezing him off the track and moving twice, and that Jenson was at fault for squeezing Hamilton mitigated only by him taking the normal racing line.

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flynfrog wrote:
Morteza AMG wrote:
flynfrog wrote:Holy crap that Mercedes/ redbull commercial was awesome
Where did you see that?
it was on FOX. Had Shu and Nico sitting at a restaurant and the waiter brings over a redbull.
If that's the one as Andrew said with Hakkinen in it, it is pretty awesome. It was Mika who ordered the waiter to bring them Red Bull :mrgreen:
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zeph wrote:For the Hamilton fans, 3x contact in 7 laps (3 or 4 of which were under the safety car).

Get a clue.
Indeed ridiculous! You shouldnt be allowed to race!
internetf1fan wrote:Why are they investigating all the racing incidents?

Let's compare this to 2010. How many times did Webber ruin Lewis's race? Where was the investigation when two Red Bulls collided in Turkey?

I am fed up with these biased stewards.
Indeed, how many times that happened, also with others and there never came out a real penalty. The red Bull guys caused multiple dangerous situations in the pit lane, without a warning whatsoever. Tell me what is more dangerous, a collision in the pit lane with all the pit guys standing there or a collision on track, I would say the first.
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spinmastermic wrote:
andrew wrote:
Redmondo wrote:Does anyone consider the possibility that Button was just taking the racing line and Hamilton got in the way? I saw the incident and every analysis I read about it says that Button squeezed Hamilton. I'm not sure it was intentional. If you listen to Button's radio he sounded like Hamilton scared the hell out of him.
Given the spray, I doubt Button saw him.
He looked in his mirrors twice
Yep, and actually, looking at the incident again – there wasn't any spray behind button at the time thanks to the low speed. Button should have seen it coming.

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Can't wait to see Kobi in contention. And winning. Touch wood. Vettel to wall it!

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FLC wrote:
ringo wrote: Button saw him from exiting the turn. I think Button, normally a weak deffender, just tried too hard to be a tough guy.
He moved twice, and ended his teammates race.

There is no excuse here. Shumacher (as good example, for a second race in a row!)
Did the proper thing, though it was more agressive.
Button knew he was there and he juked out of anger that he would be overtaken twice.
That was not a double move. They exit on the right from the last corner and then go far left to take the fast corner on the start-finish straight. it's the racing line. Button was in front and had full right of using it, Hamilton was again, or as usual, too optimistic.
You are wrong. Racing line is not that far left. And who gives a hoot where the line is?
The point of overtaking is to have the other driver depart from the racing line.

Even the BBC guys have the time to use their brains instead of hitting the blame hamilton button. They are finding it difficult though to say Jenson is at fault, though they have mumbled it.

1. Webber, from the cameras, turned in even more
2. Shumi moved twice..
3. Button moved twice and did the same thing shumacher did in hungary last year.

These are plain to see from the replays and commentary.
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myurr wrote:
flynfrog wrote: He wasn't even past Buttons rear tire it was a dumb move plain and simple.
Simply not true. Watch very carefully and you'll see that both cars exit the corner, follow the same line, and then Jenson makes a move left at the same time as Lewis chose to come out of the slip stream to the left. Jenson then squeezed him too much.

The replay the BBC just showed that Jenson was watching Hamilton in his mirrors when he squeezed Hamilton, so he knew he was there and tried to bully him out of the way. Presumably he didn't want to be overtaken a second time by Lewis in just one race, so go with all the other overtakes he's made on him this year.

Finally it's also clear that he was beyond Jensons rear tyre, despite what you claim, as his front tyre makes contact with the sidepod.
from the crappy video posted above you can see his front his Jensons rear

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Montoya has a mortal lock on p2 :D
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ringo wrote:1. Webber, from the cameras, turned in even more
2. Shumi moved twice..
3. Button moved twice and did the same thing shumacher did in hungary last year.

These are plain to see from the replays and commentary.
I disagree that Button moved twice, and yes, I do think that's the racing line. But I also think Button knew he was there, and I think he should have given enough room to stay on the track.

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donskar wrote: Why a farce?
The ultimate race cars on earth can not run in the rain.
Normally we agree on most things but I believe you're just being bullish. These ares aren't like driving a passenger car in the rain, they have no wipers, no headlights and no defog. Hell, the spray they throw goes easily 15 feet in the air, it's not that the cars can't do it, the drivers can't see anything. And the reason NASCAR cars can't/don't drive in the rain is because the cars ars dinosaurs and you can't drive a piece of --- 3500lb car with no tire in the rain and entertain people. I don't care what anyone says about the Nationwide race in Montreal, it was boring, stupid, and a waste of good gasoline to drive those stupid spec cars around (not much different to every other weekend actually). I hate NASCAR, they shouldn't drive in the rain unless it's off a damn cliff and the management of NASCAR were in all the cars. How's that for bigotry? I hate the series, but the talented drivers in it would be better suited elsewhere than that pointless series.