Canadian GP 2011 - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve

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andrew wrote:
JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:Vettel had newer tyres.

Regardless, he made the mistake he even took it on the chin... others should too
My mistake, so he did, but I think it is total rubbish to say he was pressured into a mistake. It would have likely happened even if Button wasn't right behind him.

Lets face it, he kept Hamilton at bay in Spain and Alonso in Monaco for a lot more laps.
The track was wet this time.
Vettel aint so hot in the wet with the blown diffusers.

I said it before, Turkey practice in the rain, he spins out.
Canada wall of champions, he hit it.

I saw it coming a mile away. The kid only does well with a clear track infront of him and a car 4 seconds behind.

Thanks to Button Vettels wins a scuppered.
Hamilton will learn from this, and then it will be over for Vettel.
Button was the catalyst.
As much as i don't like the fact he took out his teammate, he still stopped vettel.
For Sure!!

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andrew wrote:but I think it is total rubbish to say he was pressured into a mistake.
Its pretty obvious, he cracked under pressure.

Thats not to say he always cracks under pressure. But to lose it with a couple of corners to go with Button hounding him down is evidence enough.

Total rubbish? Only out of the most rose tinted glasses....
More could have been done.
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The car does well in wet. Schumacher drove very well, but in W02 you cannot beat RB7 and MP4-26. Who would expect Mercedes to outpace a Red Bull or McLaren? Schumacher drove well and got the best out of what he had.
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Listening to the Greek TV commentators saying that Vettel is just controlling the gap with 4 laps to go made me really LOL...

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In addition the car was set up for the wet with a huge rear wing.

Compare the W02 rear wing to that of the RB7 or Mp4 26, the moment it dried Schumacher was mince meat. He drove like a lion today though, and Im happy for that.
More could have been done.
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Once again I was convinced that DRS is foolish system.
But there is a question about of the car's behaviour with dry rubber.
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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:In addition the car was set up for the wet with a huge rear wing.

Compare the W02 rear wing to that of the RB7 or Mp4 26, the moment it dried Schumacher was mince meat. He drove like a lion today though, and Im happy for that.
that he did...
maybe most overtakes of the day
and definitely the most overtakes without using DRS
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I do not care about what the stewards think of JB's run ins with Hamilton and Button, what an epic race! Button deserved the win after 6 pit stops and being send to the back of the grid twice! Those 5 laps at the end were brilliant! Super race! Vettel's domination halted, for now at least.
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Been watching the BBC live feed since 17.00, and we're still unsure who the winner is with the investigations pending.
This race will definitely go down in history as...

THE RACE THAT WOULD NEVER END

Well done Button, Schumi, Webber =D>

Also well done Vettel: he managed to keep it on the track and lead up until a few corners before the checkered flag, no mean feat under the conditions. THAT was not luck. Yes, he made one mistake when it mattered, but still increased his points lead for the WDC, which is what matters at the end of the day..

As for Hamilton, Massa and the Ferrari pit crew.. #-o
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Its been arround 40 hours of racing for me, and im drained with 2 of the best ever races ill see; first at Le Mans, second at Montreal.

Well worth the wait.

Thats how F1 races should be!!! And bernie got riddiculed for suggesting sprinkler systems for F1 tracks to make the racing closer and more exciting.

Button man of the day, Schumi second. Button showed that when Vettel is pressured he cracks on tracks where you can overtake. Webber made the right decision too early and just lost his tyres. Kimui added to his stock as well, Alguersauri has just taken some pressure of himself now, but for how long???

Hamilton made a stupid move, and i think he reconises it. Almons on button was 50/50, repromand for either.

The only people that had a truly buisy day was the Stewards and Race Control.

2 weeks for recovery and its back to Valencia.

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n smikle wrote:Glad Button won! Anybody but Vettel. See guys he's only good once he his cruizing to the finish! Cracked like China!
It's something I have been waiting for.. circumstances have just prevented it.. there is always been some luck like today with the free pit stops and last race with the red flag.. Vettel without doubt is a fast driver and in outright pace he may be the fastest but I have yet to see race craft without passing on totally different condition tyres.

If he qualifies first and can do quali style laps to the flag there is no stopping him but in terms of a complete race driver (champion or not) I am yet to be convinced.. if he qualified mid pack he would come nowhere. I always found last year that when he had Webber around him at any start he made mistakes and was lacking.. this year he has had no real pressure from Webber off the starts hence his start to finish results.
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Well I'm going to agree to disagree that Vettel chocked. He hit a wet patch and --- happens.

Just read this regarding the Hamilton and Button tango:
http://www.thef1times.com/news/display/03647

And Niki Lauda is bang on the money again:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92293

A penalty may be extreme but Hamilton is getting very ragged of late. Unfortunately, maybe extreme action is what it'll take to make him calm down a bit.

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Jenson said he couldn't see anything and has apologised to Lewis.
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myurr wrote:Button / Alonso. Button was making an overtake, was alongside, Alonso squeezed into him.
Maybe, I believe Alonso probably thought he gave Button room. Unfortunately he gave only just enough room for Button to take to the slippery curb. Unfortunate really. Earlier on in the race I really thought a better strategy for Alonso would have been to release Masse so that Massa could have a go at harassing Vettel and possibly keep the pair of them within striking distance. But, I don't know that Massa was a heck of a lot quicker than Alonso... but you never know.

Wicked, wicked win for Button though. He was sneaky quick today. Although I didn't get much sense of it through the television coverage and commentary, but I bet Button must have felt like he was fighting and clawing for every position on every lap. And no, I'm generally not a Button fan, but I really gotta give him credit for this drive.

Massa, Massa, Massa... ya coulda been a contenda kid.
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I though McLaren were the only ones towards a wet set up JET? Got a source to confirm they were on a wet set up?

Darn excuses again. :lol:

I think it is safe to say that the W02 is great in the wet but dreadful in the dry.