Singapore GP 2011 - Marina Bay Street Circuit

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ESPImperium
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From what i said in the Silly Season Thread:
But what id structure the tyre sets like is this:

RED: 2 Hard - 1 given back at end of Friday running (250Km total running, 125Km a set)
YELLOW: 3 Medium - 1 Given back at end of Friday running (300Km total running, 125Km a set)
GREEN: 4 Soft - 2 Siven back at end of Friday running (350km Total running, 87.5km a set)

If you take it that teams can run up to 900km on a car at some events, you need to given them enough sets to last that distance. So you have 9 sets. Id keep the Q3 runners with their fastest set start on that set, but add that if you dont go out in Q3 and set a time, you getb a 5 place grid drop. But id also chastise those teams futher as if you start on the softs, you can only use the mediums in the race as your other compound, if you start on the mediums or hards, you have a free strategy.

It keeps most people on a 2 stopper, but the fastest guys will find it hard to stay to that and will probably have to make a third stop.

As for wet and intermediate tires, id make a set of each of inters last 200km and give each car 5 sets, as for wets, each car would get 4 sets that last 250km for each set. The wets would be Blue and the Inters White.

Unused wet sets for each team would be avalable for Pirelli to use at another event if it was a dry event, so this would cut their costs this way. As for unused dry sets, the teams can either give them back to Pirelli or transport them at cost to the teams back for use of their pleasure on a 2 year old car for young driver training.
We need to make Q3 almost like a double jeapordy, yes you get the better starting posistion, but it then means you have to run on scrubs for the rest of the race.

And as for this track, it annoys me, im with Eddie Jordan on this one, do away with the kerbs at Turn 10. Ive had a look at the track, and i think a nice sweeping 4th gear almost "follow my leader" type corner. This track needs quickening up, if its about 5 seconds a lap shorter, that would be another 5 minuites and 5 seconds a lap off the race distance, meaning it wont be as SC critical on the 2 hour limit. Ive always thought this would be a much better layout:


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raymondu999
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Weren't there plans at one point to make Turn 8 turn left, and basically it becomes what is now T14? If you guys can make sense of what I'm saying
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Lycoming
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its getting kinda ridiculous but a heavy handed approach will go nowhere. forcing them to run a lap... well in this situation they'd put on some primes, do a half assed lap just to say they did one and bugger off to the pits, and it would be no different. and having only 2 sets of options between qualifying and race is a bit ridiculous.

and I agree on the turn 10 part, its an idiotic corner. Not sure if i prefer your version of T7-T8 though.

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raymondu999
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Pole lap for anyone interested. Turn 23 is a DRS-able corner for RBR :wtf:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6WBLH1VIkY[/youtube]
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As for Hamilton's right rear puncture during qualy:
@PaulHembery wrote:Yes , I am sure Mclaren wil be asking FIA to look at it. Tyre had a clear cut,. Only FIA could sanction a chamge.

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I was surprised they weren't able to have DRS open for the first part of the last corner, actually, given what their aero package could do in silverstone and nurburgring.

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raymondu999
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I think that would have meant slowing down too much. Arguably all corners which you have to brake for; you can't use DRS. You do brake for T22 so it wouldn't have been flat out even with wing down; let alone with wing up
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Massa hits out at Hamilton over Singapore GP qualifying move:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94809

:lol:

I say bring back the good old quali format when all cars were squeezing each other trying to set their fastest lap in the dying seconds..

Strategic decisions my ass.

For all I know F1 is the only "sport" where contenders are banned from practising and discouraged from competing!!! #-o
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ESPImperium wrote:But what Force India and Michael did was just poor.
time hasn't sufficed for Michael to show flying lap, and he has met a checkered flag
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raymondu999
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raymondu999 wrote:Anyone know which rear wings the mcLaren drivers went for?
Looked at the pictures on F1.com; answered my own questions. Looks like both on short-chord
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thats interesting... I know they've been running that short chrod wing for a while but this will be the first time they use it at a high downforce track.

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Ray
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raymondu999 wrote:Pole lap for anyone interested. Turn 23 is a DRS-able corner for RBR :wtf:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6WBLH1VIkY[/youtube]

HOLY. CRAP. The kerbs at turn 10 are really gnarly. No wonder Kobayashi crashed!

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raymondu999
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They should rename it to the "Singapore Slingshot" rather than "Singapore Sling"

Interesting tidbit from the F1.com website says that the fuel rig was working in reverse. the operator thought he was fueling Lewis's car (for the 2nd run) but he was actually defueling it.
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Holm86
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Perhaps its just me who havent paid enough attention at previous qualifications.

But i find i quite interesting that allmost every team but 3 qualified side by side.

Its just STR, Renault and Sauber who's teammates isnt side by side ....

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Mr Alcatraz
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ESPImperium wrote:Im gonna say it now, i am bloody pissed off with drivers not going out in Q3, if they dont go out they get a 5 place grid drop, end of. They can go out on scrubs of they want and set a time, but id reduce the ammount of soft sets by one so that the guys futher up are penalised futher by not having a fresh set.

Id probably do the same for guys that do the same in Q2 as well, if they dont go out, a 5 place grid drop.

However id say that Force Majure should be taken into account for something like Kobiyashai. But what Force India and Michael did was just poor.

As for Q1, id also like to see the top guys out there for longer, make 6 laps the bare minimum for your time to be reconised. They can afford to do this as Pirelli are often taking away a set of unused primes frome every car after every event.
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I like Freds description of his final lap, and determination to get one more spot up the grid.
“I am pleased with this qualifying, because I think that might have been my best Q3 lap of the whole year,” the 30-year-old remarked. “I gave it 120 per cent, taking risks in some corners, but that was the only way I could hope to fight for the top places. If I'd driven a normal lap, I would have finished in the same position, but half a second off the two McLarens, rather than less than a tenth.
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