Singapore GP 2011 - Marina Bay Street Circuit

[raymondu999]

How would they know? I think Button thought, "last lap, I'm not catching him enough, let's cruise ad bring it home"

[i70q7m7ghw]

I don't think McLaren cared what Vettel was doing, they have said they want to take risks. They can't win the championship, so now race wins are the objective, nothing less.

[Steven]

Well if we dub Hamilton's mistake a rookie error, then Schumacher's is one as well. A pity because I came to like Schumi's revival.

@Traction: I believe teams have listen to each other's feeds, so if they told Vettel over the radio, theoretically McLaren could know. But they apparently didn't, otherwise I see no point in letting Button push like that to the end. On the other hand, Alonso in a better car is known to push to the finish line, putting pressure on the car ahead to try to force an error. It think though Vettel had too much pace in hand to get that tactic working today.

[raymondu999]

I wonder actually if more and more teams are using some sort of other non-vocal communications. I remember a while back some teams were developing a knob on the wheel to inform the team what "phase" of tyre life they were in

[WhiteBlue]

I think Hamilton's mistake was a lot more basic than Schumacher's. To misjudge another cars breaking is easy to do. But Hamilton made a completely unforced error. He must have lost his concentration or had his mind completely elsewhere.

[mnmracer]

Before it gets deleted off Youtube, just wanted to share this for who missed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIAlGCT-MSA

[ringo]

It was similar to Webber's airborne stunt, but this happened under accelleration it appeared, not in the braking zone. It was refusal to yield when the position was at least temporarily lost. He's a racer and will always go for it.

It's more to do with how he and Lewis drives. The real racers.
They are very predictive, and instinctual drivers, which can backfire. Shu never expected Perez to lift so early.
Was sillier than Lewis' but the same circumstance; prediction of the defenders trajectory.

[beelsebob]

I think Hamilton's mistake was a lot more basic than Schumacher's. To misjudge another cars breaking is easy to do. But Hamilton made a completely unforced error. He must have lost his concentration or had his mind completely elsewhere.

Huh? Both drivers misjudged the car in front's breaking, I don't get the difference.

[ringo]

Before it gets deleted off Youtube, just wanted to share this for who missed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIAlGCT-MSA

If Lewis did that...

Boy i tell you.

Massa's a sore loser. After Hamilton got the drive through and went round with a broken wing, Massa still gets beaten.
Yet he tries to get the guy to fight him.

From the beginning in knew this guy put every cell of his being into making LH's races difficult. Ever since 2008. This puts the pieces of the puzzle together for every time Massa does his crap defending on track.

[Traction]

Sound reasoning suggests that is lewis is P2 after 5 laps, and Vettel P1, then Vettel is a gonner. Hungary was the best example, though the lead was short lived.

Getting Vettel is the least. It's really the other acts of God that you can't predict or the driver can't control.

So this is why i said bar any cockups.

It's a street track too. Last i checked Vettel's not so strong those.

Remember last year with Alonso?

Empty claims are what we need to keep the season from being a bore fest. But these claims are simple observations.

So: Hamilton P1.
Alonso P2
Vettel P3

Belee dat home boy!!

Epic fail in prediction

[ringo]

I think Hamilton's mistake was a lot more basic than Schumacher's. To misjudge another cars breaking is easy to do. But Hamilton made a completely unforced error. He must have lost his concentration or had his mind completely elsewhere.

You got to be kidding. Shumacher was going in a straight line.
And could see every inch of perez car. I saw the accident from a mile away, right as they both came off the corner. Shumi was too close.
Shumacher loses the most front wings out of all the drivers this year. His mistakes are based on his predictions. This one was very avoidable with some patience.

Shumi's error was the most unforced. Hamilton had to turn in at some point. Not being able to see the wing tip and looking in the mirror at the same time is more dificult than cruising beside a sauber for an easy overtake.
Worse when we put "punchy baby" into the equation, things get more dificult in Lewis' situation

[vall]

I think Hamilton's mistake was a lot more basic than Schumacher's. To misjudge another cars breaking is easy to do. But Hamilton made a completely unforced error. He must have lost his concentration or had his mind completely elsewhere.

I agree on that totally. If another car breaks early, it is hard to do anything.

[ringo]

Epic fail in prediction

Well i was right in one thing. Vettel's not champ as yet!

Though he has only Mr. "Almost but Never" Jenson Button, it's a done deal anyway.

[ringo]

I think Hamilton's mistake was a lot more basic than Schumacher's. To misjudge another cars breaking is easy to do. But Hamilton made a completely unforced error. He must have lost his concentration or had his mind completely elsewhere.

I agree on that totally. If another car breaks early, it is hard to do anything.

Perez didn't brake if you watch the replay. All perez did was lift of the throttle.
He couldn't brake where they made contact, his braking point would be after he moved right. He didn't move right as yet.

Shumi was just too focused on getting back up to Rosberg and ballsed up his race.
He was going well too.

[i70q7m7ghw]

I think Hamilton's mistake was a lot more basic than Schumacher's. To misjudge another cars breaking is easy to do. But Hamilton made a completely unforced error. He must have lost his concentration or had his mind completely elsewhere.

I agree on that totally. If another car breaks early, it is hard to do anything.

Sorry I disagree, Schumachers error wasn't misjudging the braking of the car infront, it was his position relative to that car. Schumacher was too close to Perez to react regardless of whether Perez braked early or not. He should have been a cars width to the side, it was like Schumacher couldn't make his mind up on whether he was making a move or not.