Schumi deliberately blocks Monaco quali

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JimmyK
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The stewards are still investigating, but to be honoust, we all find him guilty but the stewards won't. They won't take the risk of punishing shumi, even if this means that the whole paddock will be upside down tomorrow. Schumi will be on pole. Ferrari isn't that stupid to say something over the radio that would made it suspicious and Schumi himself knows when he has to pull a stunt like that as we've noticed in the past! And again, the German will get away with it
Well, someone had to ;) Anyhow, it's 0:12 and I'm still knackered from Friday's party, good night all, this ought to prove a fun race :D

kilcoo316
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manchild wrote:
Tp wrote:Why wasn't Alonso penalised for not slowing down under waved yellows when he did his final lap?
Because that isn't prohibited by FIA regualtions. Only overtaking under yellow flag is prohibited.
Its every bit as illegal as any percieved flexing of rear wings...
One set of rules for one team, and another for the rest? :wink:

Waved yellow = slow down and be prepared to stop.

JimmyK
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Waved yellow = slow down and be prepared to stop.
I dunno, I think manchild is right, there's no speed limit as such, just you cannot change position deliberately. Unless, of course, there's a safety car present, and that dictates the speed.

anyhow, yeh, sleep

DaveKillens
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Well, he got caught and punished. I have mixed feeelings about the whole affair, that Michael Schumacher let down all his fans, that he tarnished a great sport. I don't feel sorry for Shu, but I wish to express to all the Ferrari and Schumacher fans my feelings that I hope this affair is put to rest, and that there's a good race tomorrow.

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kilcoo316 wrote:
manchild wrote:
Tp wrote:Why wasn't Alonso penalised for not slowing down under waved yellows when he did his final lap?
Because that isn't prohibited by FIA regualtions. Only overtaking under yellow flag is prohibited.
Its every bit as illegal as any percieved flexing of rear wings...
One set of rules for one team, and another for the rest? :wink:

Waved yellow = slow down and be prepared to stop.
I don't know what you all were looking at this afternoon, but in the last lap of monaco qualy I saw Fernando 0.3 sec faster than pole time in the end of second sector, and then he had to slow down hard because of the yellow flag provoked by some cheater. It made him loose about 0.4 sec in three turns!!! So the main reason why he can't be punished for not slowing down under yellow is that he DID slow down very hard which is precisely what cost him the pole and what is the start of all this mess.

If he did not slow down, he would have simply been on pole from his storming lap, unless Kimi would have been extremely quick in last sector, as he was 0.1sec down on FA that time...

manchild
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Scuderia_Russ wrote:I'm amazed at Ferrari the team getting --- for this though... they don't drive the car, Michael Schumacher does!!
Indeed SR. With no offence that is the essence of my animosity - glorious Ferrari name ends up under dirt because few individuals who are hiding under Ferrari name. When I say that FIA is biased to Ferrari I'm thinking about new Ferrari management not on anything that has to do with pre 1996 period.

Only few people, not Ferrari what is used to be before they took over - Schuey, Montezemolo, Todt and Brown. I really don't get why and how some Ferrari fans are willing to sell Ferrari's good name for the sake of suspicious and unfair victories and titles these people have brought? They will come and go but Ferrari will stay and whatever was done under its name will be impossible to erase. If they've just bought rights to use Ferrari name and to get rich by selling laptops, cameras and TVs with prancing horse than tiffosi should raise their voice if they cherish the heart and soul of the team rather than statistics.

What good was brought to Ferrari by yesterday’s Schuey move and Browns statement? Same things as Indy 2005 or 1997 – shameful remark in history books. Worst of all, no one from Ferrari management doesn’t even think to sack Schuey because of what his ego does to team’s reputation and that is simply unbelievable having in mind what Ferrari used to be. No driver or team boss or engineer’s vanity shouldn’t jeopardize reputation of team. That was Enzo’s policy while policy of Montezemolo and gang is to get rich regardless on what consequences it will have on Ferrari once they leave.

I really tried to open myself here especially because of SR, Reca and some other Ferrari fans whose passion for F1 I respect because I though I’m being misunderstood when I express my animosity. Hope this will help.
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:D Wonderful, he got what he deserved :D

....... and its nice to see the stewards being alowed to make the right descision without FIA/GPA politics getting in the way :D
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Ok so all his quali times are scrapped and he starts at the back of the field, aside of his fellow Ferrari driver Massa.

:arrow: http://www.f1technical.net/news/3103

The stewards reportedly reviewed FIA data, telemetry and radio conversations, and thereby decided he braked unnecesarely hard. Also, the statement does not say anything about whether Ferrari ordered him to do something like that or not, so we might never know.

Anyway I think it's going to be an interesting race tomorrow, McLaren on the second row, super aguri on the 10th and Ferrari on the 11th. Some people will be loaded with fuel ;)

Hudsonhawk.
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A rape of name, logo and heritage for personal interest of several greedy people
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Hudsonhawk.
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does anyone have a link to the video of the incident????

Hudsonhawk.
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but I wish to express to all the Ferrari and Schumacher fans my feelings that I hope this affair is put to rest, and that there's a good race tomorrow.
NO WAY SHOULD THIS BE PUT TO REST......!!!! Damage is doneee

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im a shumy/ferrari fan, i am disapointed by the stewards decision but i think we all have to agree that sometimes the decision by the stewards go either way and have to respect the decision. Anyway wat is done is done. but i would like to ask if shumacher is able to put aditional fuel in his car and start on the grid or must he start with the fuel he had in qfying..

Venom
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I am not disappointed at stewards, they did their job and they got the evidence to prove their decision.

For once, I am really pissed off by Ferrari's or Schumacher's mess. It is so low what they done - actually I don't think I will even watch the race tommorow.

I wish he retires this season...

:(
The trouble with the rat-race is that even if you win, you're still a rat.

MRE
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cheat....cheat..........and again CHEAT!!!!!!

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From the first 2006 GP, I was really,really, upset with the 2006 qualifying format. Confusing and too complicated. Drivers can cheat by blocking other drivers. All this new regulations only to help poor Ferrari. To help Bridgestone. To help Schumi step back on the podium. Tyres changing during the race favour to Bridgestone. All the new regulations only to make Shumi crawl back to the top. What happen to flip wing that Shumi use for the Malaysian GP?
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DaveKillens
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Since Shu has to start at the back of the grid, he can change his engine, add fuel, and do anything else. The penalty for those things is to be moved back, and he's already as far back as he can be.
I'm very interested to see if Massa can stay ahead of Shu, or he will defer and somehow allow his number one driver to slip past
This will alter Alonso's strategy, second place isn't so bad, and he will drive more cautiously and take less risks. Mclaren sit on the second row, how they finish is debatable. Webber has a great chance to claim a podium, and Barrichello may put the boots to Button's shine, and make everyone question what makes the Briton so special in the eyes of some.There's a lot at stake at Monaco, it will probably determine Montoya's and Kimi's futures. Fisi has to contribute to have any chance of driving next year for Renault, and who knows, this may have a profound affect on Shu's thinking on his retirement. He has to score points or his season is in serious trouble, and he may not want to go through this again.
The race itself may appear boring with a lack of passing, but there is a lot at stake for the drivers.