Ferrari F2012

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balalev wrote:
beelsebob wrote:Image

Your ferrari scaling is well off.
photos from different angles. sry
Huh? I'm comparing points on the same plane that have a known equal size. The wheels are different sizes, so you've scaled them wrong.

Raptor22
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Redragon wrote:
Raptor22 wrote:arrow is pointing the wrong way for exhausts
I am afraid it is not, I can see the pipe pointing on this way on my screen
http://jorgelizalde.co.uk/ferrrari/Scre ... 30.532.png

Ah I see your convention. you arepointing the direction the exhaust gases are travelling.
I said to turn the arrow arond to point at the exhaust outlet. We are seeing the same thing.
Yes I agree, that is where the exhaust outlet is and the direction of gas flow.
That is going to have to change before the 1st test though so I believe we are not looking at the running bodywork. just a launch version.

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the simplicity of the bump in the nose cone makes me think this is just a red herring and their actual race / testing nose will be much more complex, I mean even the caterahm's bump looks more developed than this one.

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so you mean they have to crash test the actual race chassis before MOnday....

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ok first picture http://jorgelizalde.co.uk/ferrrari/Scre ... .59.53.png , sorry for quality but I just getting from slideshow.


And in this one I am showing my theory of two exhausts, engine pointing down center of diffuser and hot air from sidepods pointing brake ducts and rear wheels, sorry for poor english

http://jorgelizalde.co.uk/ferrrari/Scre ... 30.532.png
http://jorgelizalde.co.uk/ferrrari/Scre ... .59.32.jpg

beelsebob
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Raptor22 wrote:so you mean they have to crash test the actual race chassis before MOnday....
No, he means this isn't the one that's been crash tested.

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A13EX_f wrote:the simplicity of the bump in the nose cone makes me think this is just a red herring and their actual race / testing nose will be much more complex, I mean even the caterahm's bump looks more developed than this one.
Yep. I bet they show up with a better nose in testing. I bet thise one was just covered up for pictures. It looks like a brick in the wind.

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So in other words, the car that we see here from driver's seat and up is not the actual car? Give me a break, you think they have time to waste resources on something like that?

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NoDivergence wrote:So in other words, the car that we see here from driver's seat and up is not the actual car? Give me a break, you think they have time to waste resources on something like that?
Given that all it needs is the nose redone, and that is already a dummy part due to the overly simple front wing, yes, I do thin they'd waste resources on it.

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NoDivergence wrote:So in other words, the car that we see here from driver's seat and up is not the actual car? Give me a break, you think they have time to waste resources on something like that?
No, just the changeable front wing assembly. Which includes the entire stepped bit and everything afterwards. The monocoque ends somewhere just after the suspension and then the removable nosecone starts, which can be completely changed/modified easily throughout the season.

The monocoque for this car is high, so they will still have to have a step in order to be legal, but the step might not be as crude as it is as the car is developed.
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While it looks fairly blocky head on and from the side, this is largely due to the solid rosso colouring - if you look at a picture taken from a front-3/4 angle you can see the bump is sculpted into a U valley shape.
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the most ugliest car ever!

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Really the bump of the nose has a very little aero effect, just a local high pressure followed by low pressure and two weak vortices on the sides.

There are a lot of features in this car worth discussing, the bump even if it is a punch in the eye does not deserve much attention.

Front pull rod seemed impossible, or viable with compromises (tub extensions,hub extensions): here we see it done with an arm angle deemed unfeasible before.

The rear suspension has a peculiar arrangement too.
And then there is a lot of semiporisional bodywork, and original bits like the flapped pod wing
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shelly wrote:original bits like the flapped pod wing
Good spot! I take it you mean the turning vane being split, right? I hadn't seen that. I suspect we'll see a few more of these soon.
shelly wrote:Really the bump of the nose has a very little aero effect, just a local high pressure followed by low pressure and two weak vortices on the sides.
All of these bumps are going to suffer some drag, right? They are a little disadvantaged to McLaren in this respect, but I'd agree that it is probably not a great amount.
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