Schumi deliberately blocks Monaco quali

[Ciro Pabón]

I translate janus post, for your viewing pleasure. Google translation (I tried it) is horrendous, even worse than mine!:

Joaquín Verdegay, one of the three stewards that punished Michael Schumacher, spoke about the Monaco GP qualifying ruling, motive for the Ferrari pilot to start in the pit lane, and he recognized that the German assumed responsability for stopping on track, a feat that affected the lap times of other pilots.

"I am very proud because we took the right decission. We doubted between punishing him with a ten position penalty or to take away the points from him, because intentions were hard to prove. But the fact that we were right is a settled point", he said at the beginning of his statement.

Verdegay tried then to explain in a more technical way how everything happened. "(Schumacher) says that the back of the car slided and that is why he went off. I think that to do an innecesary counter-correction at 10 mph and for 5 meters is pathetic and impossible to justify, even more for a champion of the world like Schumacher, that is capable of doing 120 mph", explained Verdegay.

"In the end, the crucial part is that Michael (Schumacher) recognized that he was not able to avoid the accident, or the crash, in case he did not stop the car. This was the reason for the penalty. I he had crashed into the barrier we could not have punished him", explained the steward, giving reasons for his statement. "The article 116 punishes the will to harm other pilots and the fact of stopping willingly", he remarked, saying that the German was punished based on the second reason.

"The law is clear. If you stop because you wish, you lose your times. He stopped because he wanted", he concluded.

[West]

Martin Brundle said it best that with his reputation, nobody really wanted to give him benefit of the doubt.

Sounds like Max Mosely is smoking that crack again. It's ok to cheat as long as you don't plan it hours ahead of time.

[Ciro Pabón]

Sounds like Max Mosely is smoking that crack again. It's ok to cheat as long as you don't plan it hours ahead of time.

Max Mosley says that he shouldn't be called a cheater. West, I think these are different things: you can understand why somebody did something and then you can not condone what he did. It is not right to delve into somebody's disgrace.

[jgredline]

As I have stated many times before, I am NOT A Schumacher fan but I did have a great deal of respect for him (past tense)

[West]

You're probably right Ciro but the fact in many people's minds is that he purposely blocked everybody to gain an advantage, then lie about it. If that is not cheating I don't know what is. Seems to me that Max took this way too lightly (and no this isn't a FIA - Ferrari connection accusation)

[Ciro Pabón]

... the fact in many people's minds is that he purposely blocked everybody to gain an advantage, then lie about it. If that is not cheating I don't know what is. Seems to me that Max took this way too lightly (and no this isn't a FIA - Ferrari connection accusation)

You are totally right. He has to live with it. Damn, we have to live with it. I was trying to remark that Max Mosley is the head of the FIA, he has to be diplomatic and the less he talks, the better.

It has happened in many sports. F1 can consider itself fortunate that doping is not one of its problems, for example! The question will be always the same: are you playing or are you working? Is this a game, a sport or a way of life and a lot of money? How much is enough? This, West, I do not know.

Besides, he could do it again. That's what Schumacher seems to be proud about (I may be wrong): to outsmart everybody, no matter what. I do not like it a bit, but he seems to like what it brings, like many people I know. Is what they call in Colombia "intestinal otitis": they can hear you, but they pretend they are a**holes...

(sorry if it offends anybody, I am trying to translate something not as rude as it sounds in English)

[pRo]

http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=119735

"He lost control of his car while travelling at only 16km/h."

Heck, even Yuji Ide had no trouble controlling his car at that speed, maybe FIA should cancel Schumis licence as well.

[Hudsonhawk.]

kilcoo316 wrote

If a striker breaks through on goal, and the goalkeeper tries to get the ball, misses, then realises he needs to bring the forward down to stop a goal...

You obviously know little about soccer. The offender will get a red card for such a blatant move. i.e - He gets removed from the field!!! Shoie didnt get a red card!!

Ciro babbled

I think these are different things: you can understand why somebody did something and then you can not condone what he did. It is not right to delve into somebody's disgrace.

So what you are saying is that max can say he didnt cheat, but then understands what lead him to cheating!!! WTF ????

[Venom]

He should've hit the barrier and make minor damage to the car which wouldn't cost much and he would still stay at pole position. But! he was too greedy and couldn't even afford to do that. LOL

[dumrick]

He should've hit the barrier and make minor damage to the car which wouldn't cost much and he would still stay at pole position. But! he was too greedy and couldn't even afford to do that. LOL

No, he should wear a tirolese hat, walk a funny walk, cover his face in mud and sing opera. That way he wouldn't have dropped to last spot and would be the first time something he did could be called "entretaining"...

[kilcoo316]

kilcoo316 wrote

If a striker breaks through on goal, and the goalkeeper tries to get the ball, misses, then realises he needs to bring the forward down to stop a goal...

You obviously know little about soccer. The offender will get a red card for such a blatant move. i.e - He gets removed from the field!!! Shoie didnt get a red card!!

Did you read the rest of my post?

I went on to say that would the goalkeeper be subjected to the same level of abuse, and of course he wouldn't.


Schumacher did get a red card - his qualifying times were rendered void. He might not have got the suspension that would have followed in soccer, but he got the red card, his participation was effectively removed.

[Ciro Pabón]

So what you are saying is that max can say he didnt cheat, but then understands what lead him to cheating!!! WTF ????

Yes, darling, whatever you say. I have a confession to make: I am retarded.

Do you like Marlon Brando?

"I could have been a contender. I could have had class and been somebody. Real class."

Elia Kazan - On the waterfront (maybe after the Piscine?)

[manchild]

It continues...

SCHUMI RISKING DISREPUTE CHARGE

Michael Schumacher has been warned that continuing to dispute the view of the stewards at the Monaco Grand Prix could bring further action against him.

Schumacher's Ferrari team have been told his denial of the stewards' verdict on Saturday might trigger a charge of bringing the sport into disrepute.

In one of the most controversial incidents ever to affect the sport, stewards relegated the seven-time world champion to the back of the grid after he'd been seen to park his car at the exit to the Rascasse corner, denying the other nine runners the chance of improving their lap time

Schumacher and Ferrari personnel gave personal evidence and the stewards examined telemetry in a meeting that went into great detail and ran for several hours.

Schumacher's own view of events has still to be fully articulated. Asked to clear up what had happened in Rascasse on Saturday he could only say:

"I have to admit that certain things must have looked a bit curious from the outside, but there were reasons for that and I don't really want to elaborate on it. It's not really anyone else's business either."

FIA president Max Mosley had indicated that the stewards will take similar action if it were to happen again and will not countenance a driver, even of Schumacher's stature, undermining the system.

He said: "It's absolutely essential that everybody understands that if you hold another driver up then there will be a penalty. The only way to make qualifying proper and fair is to be very clear about that."

That was the cheapest, dirtiest, thing I’ve ever seen in F1. Schumacher should leave F1, and go home. I think he’s underestimated our intelligence by trying to claim it was a driving mistake—I mean, give me a break! He just parked the car in the middle of the road, and tried to stop Alonso from completing his fast lap. The FIA has to penalize him—I just hope they’re brave enough to do what they need to do. And he should get out of the Grand Prix Drivers Association today—and never speak the word ‘safety’ again.

[dumrick]

Go Keke!!!!!!! =D> =D> =D> =D>

I've already expressed my view on what I think about this matter. It's one of the more serious blows in image of F1 in history and I'm afraid that in the future that will be clear, if this kind of behaviour isn't seriously penalized (and it hasn't been yet).

[Scuderia_Russ]

The empire striked back, but missed!

When you are trying to take the piss out of someone the least you can do is carry it out with the proper English.