Schumi deliberately blocks Monaco quali

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FLC wrote:
Calling the race stewards "clerks" is ridiculous. Thats exactly like giving an Italian soccer referee to be in charge of a world cup match, say, between Italy and Brazil. Isnt he just a "clerk" of FIFA? Why then FIFA doesnt follow this ridiculous idea?!
You are comparing apples with oranges and extending your line of argument, implies stewards at any race cannot be from any of the following countries:
UK, Spain, Brazil, Columbia, France, US, Germany, Canada, Australia, Austria, Holland, Italy, Japan, Portugal. In short most (if not all) of the countries with any motor sport history or experience.
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Ciro Pabón
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zac510 wrote:Ciro, I think that is a bit misleading as it doesn't include the corner before Rascasse.

His line through the left hander completely dictates his line through Rascasse so should be just as much part of the evidence.

PS I know you are mostly joking in your post ;)
Zac, you are right. Just a couple of photos say nothing, but definitely it was a gross mistake, whenever it happened.

I was as surprised as you by people answering seriously (c'mon, guys... Ganymedes?). I was just triying to make a point about conspiration theories and the irrestrict love of some fans. It wasn't as stupid as I thought: I discovered I am not the only one that still admires Clark. I confess I have read some posts in a hurry, too.

Anyway, Mr. Verdegay should have shut up. And I think I am going to do the same thing...

Let's prepare for next race, and, in the name of the sportmanship everybody is asking, I ask you people to let Schumacher write his own history. He is just a man like you and me, not an infallible god, nor an malicious devil.

Besides, this year's championship is really interesting. We will be telling our grandsons about it in years to come.
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Look Schumi cheated and made a very bad/ clumsy attempt of it. For the fact that the whole paddock and world press some whom having been writing abourt F1 for 25 years all said cheat, schumi got booed in the press room when the live tv broadcast feed finished after the qualifying.

His body language and the colour in his face drained in that press conference it said it all "i --- up" he could not look in the eye of Bob Constanduros when replying to questions given to him and kept his head down and looking to the left, like a dog that has been told off.

On Schumi's parking lap he has already lost 0.8 secs compared with his provisional pole lap by the time he had arrived at sector 2 timing, he knew that he couldn't improve his time by 0.8 secs in two corner. So why then would he be pushing so hard that he "slid" wide a Rascasse. Then there was the way that he slid, the ferrari went in wide and off line on the dust as though he was preparing to lock up and understeer off, but he didn't lock up. Maybe he had been careful not to inflict damge to the car.

So now he was on line to easily make it around the corner. On board footage clearly shows him steering left for the right hander in order to get anywhere near the barrier. and when he did make it understeer with plenty of right hand lock and foot on the brake he stalled the car. as it stalled it jumped forward nor backwards like it would if he had selected reverse to get going again.

So please stop all these conspiracy theory stories to try and justify in your minds that he didn't do it and that it was a simple mistake whilst pushing the car (remember he was 0.8 sec down). And that the FIA steward is biased to renault/ alonso and that his name is some sort of code, grow up!

I have watched F1 since 1990 and seen first hand schumis tricks that he pulls and it has now been 9 years since his faux pas with villeneuve and in this time a whole new generation of fans have come to F1 and are unaware of micheals past and can't see what he can really get upto.

He cheat to get the front row of the grid and made a bad job of it is now in the history books. Lets look forward to the British GP and hope that he doesn't run alonso off the track onto the grass down the hanger straight at 180mph towards stowe.

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wazojugs wrote:Lets look forward to the British GP and hope that he doesn't run alonso off the track onto the grass down the hanger straight at 180mph towards stowe.
Classic! :lol:
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The race ended about 10 pages ago, and, yet, here we are...Page 16.

Isn't it about time...?

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I said it before, the incident is done and over with, lets got over it and move on :cry:
Simon: Nils? You can close in now. Nils?
John McClane: [on the guard's phone] Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, ----head. So's his pal, and those four guys from the East German All-Stars, your boys at the bank? They're gonna be a little late.
Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
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Yea your right, lets move on to oage 17, I mean something else. :lol:
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Come on guys lets agree to differ and move on :? Schumi has a history that repeats now and again, the majority agree he did again on Saturday so lets just leave it at that and go and find out how the caster angle affects handling :?:
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SCHUMI R THE BST DRIVERR EVAR NO DIDN'T CHEAT!!1

No doubt they'll be out for revenge in Britain - they should have had Monaco EASY.
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SCHUMI R THE BST DRIVERR EVAR NO DIDN'T CHEAT!!1
:?: :?: :?:

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West wrote:SCHUMI R THE BST DRIVERR EVAR NO DIDN'T CHEAT!!1

No doubt they'll be out for revenge in Britain - they should have had Monaco EASY.
Being the best doesn't mean he doesn't cheat.
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I've been following this thread, dying to keep posting. But keep thinking "let it die, let it die - move on"

Sorry:

Autosport this week a VERY approximate transcript.

From Alex Zanardi's autobiography - a tale from F3 way back somewhere around 1989/1990. It seems that Zanardi another Italian & Schuey were dicing in what I understand was a title deciding race. "The German" (not clear if it was "the" German or another) caused an accident involving the three cars - Alex was out of the race and got out of his car, so too did Schuey..........then Michael realised the race was not going to be red flagged, so got back in his car, parked it on track, took the steering wheel off and left the scene of the crime - race stopped.

Someone should have chucked the book at him then............. :roll:

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Like I said.
Schumi is the Barry Bonds of F1
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RH1300S wrote:I've been following this thread, dying to keep posting. But keep thinking "let it die, let it die - move on"

Sorry:

Autosport this week a VERY approximate transcript.

From Alex Zanardi's autobiography - a tale from F3 way back somewhere around 1989/1990. It seems that Zanardi another Italian & Schuey were dicing in what I understand was a title deciding race. "The German" (not clear if it was "the" German or another) caused an accident involving the three cars - Alex was out of the race and got out of his car, so too did Schuey..........then Michael realised the race was not going to be red flagged, so got back in his car, parked it on track, took the steering wheel off and left the scene of the crime - race stopped.

Someone should have chucked the book at him then............. :roll:
I remember Mansell sitting slumped in his car after a prang at the start of a G.P. once just to get it stopped. Sid Watkins snapped a ligament running to his aid. Like Maradonna's 'Hand of God' some said cheat, others said clever tactics.
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tpe wrote: Then, either you are mistaken, or Schumacher has magical powers to know that Alonso, Kimi and Webber were behind him on a 'hot' lap. Look at the qual sector times at f1.com. Schumacher was on a VERY hot lap, at least at 1st split. According to your speculation, he could not know anything about the track status/position etc.
Good point. Now would manchild&cohorts or his "impartial" race steward friend care to answer this ?